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Subject:Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Kevin Donnelley Sat, Oct 02, 2021 IP: 104.148.181.112

Hi All,

An inscribed Chinese porcelain plaque with two red seals, painted with scenery of a mountainous landscape and mist surrounding the ones in the distance.
Hoping to learn the translation of the calligraphy and the seals.

Dimensions(including frame)
L: 16 1/2"; 41.9 cm
W: 12 1/4"; 31 cm
Thank you for looking,

Kind regards,

Kevin








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Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Mark Adams Sun, Oct 03, 2021

Hi Kevin,
Youd plaque I believe is in the style and manner of Wang Yeting 1884-1942.
He was a famous member of the eight friends of zushan.
Heavily copied of late. In my opinion yours fall into this category.
Regards,
[email protected]

Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: I.Nagy Mon, Oct 04, 2021

林谷清幽 
庚申年秋日
汪野亭畫於珠山
Forested valleys are quiet and secluded
In the Autumn Month of the Year of Metal-Monkey (1920)
Painted by Wang Yeting at Zhushan
Upper seal,
平山 - Pingshan - Pseudonym of Wang Yeting
Lower seal,
亭  - Ting 

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Kevin Donnelley Mon, Oct 04, 2021

Grateful for both of the replies, many thanks to each of you.
Mark,
Hoping you are able to provide some insight on what you saw in the details that might have led you to your comment as a late version of his work. The painting which appears to be an honest one shows quite a bit more age than those in the category of “late” as you indicated
Best regards

Kevin

Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Mark Adams Mon, Oct 04, 2021

Hi Kevin,
It's not by Wang Yeting. It's a, later attribute.
The style of the calligraphy is wrong. As is his seal read mark.
The styling of the artists work is very nice but it's not in the masters styling.
I would estimate that about 95% of all works attributed to Wang Yeting are in fact later copies.
I will see if I can post some genuine examples for you to compare. You could visit Sotheby's, Christies and Bonhams for works. But be sure to look only at those actually by him and not attributes. You can normally distinguish quickly by the sold prices. His genuine works command good prices.
Regards,
[email protected]

Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Mark Adams Mon, Oct 04, 2021

Hi Kevin,
Here a few for you to compare. Please note the bluish-black enamels he often used with a heavy hand. Note the angle of the calligraphy is different from yours.
Regards,
[email protected]







Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Mark Adams Mon, Oct 04, 2021

Hi Kevin,
Here is another one. This was one I owned and recently sold. It's a very nice depiction but not by his hand.
Note the lack of the bluish-black and the heavy hand. Note the different angle of the calligraphy. The seal mark is different also. Finally Wang Yeting NEVER signed his works with that upper left hand side flower!
I sold it for $1,000 aud.
Regards,
[email protected]



Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Mark Adams Mon, Oct 04, 2021

Hi Kevin,
Just to muddy the waters a bit
Here are four plaques sold by Christies a few years back with strong provenance.
Unfortunately these four plaques were not by Wang Yeting in my opinion. Note the lack of bluish-black, the additional flowers in the top right hand side. The angle of the calligraphy is wrong.
Still they sold for good money If you like these types of republican period porcelain plaques as I do. I strongly recommend that you buy the book by Simon Kwan on republican period porcelain. It's not cheap but still available via Hong Kong.
Regards,
[email protected]





Subject:Re: Inscribed Chinese Painted Porcelain Plaque
Posted By: Kevin Donnelley Wed, Oct 06, 2021

Hi Mark,

Many thanks to you for all of the great information that you have carefully provided on this topic, very helpful. yes, I am very much interested in the early 20th C painted porcelains, some later period wares as well, will follow your advice and seek out a copy of Kwan's book.
will post a few more pieces that I have in mind from my collection soon

Best,

Kevin


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