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Subject:Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: Sami Väätänen Mon, Nov 16, 2020 IP: 88.113.34.27
Found that plate from fleamarket in Helsinki today
Size 22x27cm
All information are welcome.
Thank You
Regards:
Sami







Subject:Re: Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: Sami Väätänen Mon, Nov 16, 2020
More photos



Subject:Re: Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: Sami Väätänen Tue, Nov 17, 2020

Or is that Chinese?



Subject:Re: Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Nov 17, 2020
Your plate bears a large mark of 'Made by the Leisurely Retreat' (You Xian ju zhi - 有閒居製) and a smaller one of 'Imitation Antique' (Fang gu - 仿古), The larger of which appears to date from the Republic (1912-49) to late 20th century, and possibly is associated with the United Wilson Company of Hong Kong. Here are some other links with images of ceramics with the mark and its variations. You'll note that it has been referred to by variant translations as well, but 'Leisurely Retreat' is what I'm sticking with.

http://asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=125226

http://asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=131944

http://asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=131944

http://asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=123637

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: Sami Väätänen Wed, Nov 18, 2020
Hello Bill
Thank You for Your answer.
Interesting.
Nice plate, but no't so good quality of porcelain.
I keep it in my "fairy tale" collection.
Regards
Sami

Subject:Re: Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Nov 19, 2020
The wolf is indeed having a face-off with a bird, this one being a domestic bantam rooster or cockerel. Perhaps there is a story in the scene, especially if the purplish blue flowers in the background are "wolf's bane".

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: I.Nagy Tue, Nov 17, 2020
It is Chinese.

有間居製　-　Youjianju (Leisure Retreat) -zhi - Manufactured by Youjianju

20 century copy of Qing dynasty porcelain.

Marking on the 3rd picture,
仿古　-　Modelled after an antique

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Please help to identify Japanese plate
Posted By: Sami Väätänen Thu, Nov 19, 2020
Dear Nagy
Thank You for Your answer.
I'm going to keep this in my "Fairy tail" collection.
Picture with wolf and a bird, is it from old Chinese fairytail?
Regards
Sami

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