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Subject:japanese /china marks
Posted By: PATRICK MOORE Sat, Jul 16, 2005

ONCE AGAIN I IMPLORE YOUR HELP!!
I HAVE FOUND THIS UNUSUAL LOOKING TEAPOT,AND THE MARKS!! .. NOW THE OTHER ITEM WAS TWO TINY POTS WHICH I THINK GO WITH THE TEAPOT!!
SO CAN YOU TELL ME IF THIS TIME IT IS A GENUINE ARTICLE,IT LOOKS THE PART.. REGARDS PATRICK







Subject:Re: japanese /china marks
Posted By: Lloyd Smith Mon, Jul 18, 2005

Hi Patrick,

I believe part of the problem has to do with poor photo quality, but from what I am able to surmise, is that the teapot is a later period Kutani, post 1980. This is due the modern gold gilt on the spout. Usually if the gilt has a high gloss sheen of highly polished brass, it would suggest a mercury compound in the manufacturing process. This date is also compatable with the modern red mark that is evident.

The other mark, from what I can see, is a older style satsuma mark, with the satsuma crest just above the script, usually these type marks would date to the second half of the 19th to third quarter century. But because the photo is so poor, this would be pure speculation. I assume that the second mark is found on the other example not shown.

Please re-take the photos for better clarity and analysis.

Regards, Lloyd

Subject:Re: Re: japanese /china marks
Posted By: Lloyd Smith Mon, Jul 18, 2005

I just realized that the red mark was upside down, in part it reads Zhong Guo Zhi, which translates China made.

I don't know if the other mark belongs to the same teapot, but if thats the case, then you have a Kutani style teapot made in China with a Satsuma mark, of which this would place your teapot along with the others to the very late 20th C. to the present.

Sorry for the new information.


Regards, Lloyd

Subject:Re: Re: Re: japanese /china marks
Posted By: PATRICK MOORE Mon, Jul 18, 2005

MAY I SAY AGAIN ! YOU ARE A CREDIT TO THIS SITE!!
YOU ALWAYS COME UP WITH THE INFORMATION ,AND PERHAPS SOMEDAY I WILL FIND A GENUINE ANTIQUE,AND WE CAN SHOUT "EUREKA"!! REGARDS PATRICK

Subject:Re: Re: Re: japanese /china marks
Posted By: Lloyd Smith Mon, Jul 18, 2005

Hi Patrick,

Though I do not advertise, nor will I promote any dealer on a open forum, I can however point you in the right direction if interested. You have my e-mail address.

Regards, Lloyd


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