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I'm trying to see if someone could identify the mark on the bottom of this Chinese Porcelain. It is an extremely fine piece but I've had it sitting in a box for a long time without knowing what it was.

I would appreciate anyone who might be able to identify the mark.

The vase is around 9" tall and 8" across

Thank you,
Bill

Da Qing Qianlong Nianzhi, made during the Qianlong reign of the Great Qing, but your vase is very clearly much more recently made than that.

Thank you for the information.

Looks like the Qianlong mark, Qing Dynasty, below. Not too familiar with Chinese porcelain, but in general the intricate drawings, colour types and tones look good enough to be genuine. Nice piece!

Thank you for the information

The mark says "Made during the Qianlong Reign of the Great Qing Dynasty" (Da Qing Qianlong Nian Zhi), but your porcelain jar is late 20th century.

Often this palette mistakenly is described as "doucai" (the contending colors), but doucai patterns as I understand them should have underglaze blue outlining for all of the overglaze colored features. That appears not to be the case here, so the piece might more appropriately be called an example of "wucai" (the five colors). In both cases, however, what is seen on your jar as bright orange in the Indian lotus blooms and some of the bats and scrolling tendrils would have been painted during the Qianlong reign in a more muted iron red pigment than this modern one.

I've attached an image of an 18th century doucai dragon & phoenix bowl for comparison of the palette.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Thank you for the information.

I would like to add though, that what you are saying about the vase concerning 'doucai' is not correct. Every overglaze on this vase has a fine, underlying blue outlining. It may be difficult to see in the pictures I provided, but they are there. It is done to a very fine degree.

I am certainly in agreement on the palette though.

Anthoney Lee, who used to comment on this board, saw this in a picture while I was having him do some appraisals for me. He was very interested in this piece.

Thank you again,

Bill

For reference, here's a scan of a Qianlong doucai jar from a Taipei Palace Museum catalog bought in 1986, when viewing the exhibition it accompanied. I don't recall seeing anythng displayed at that time with the almost day-glo orange color that seems to have been used on your jar.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Probably 70s.

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