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Subject:Some Chinese Jade Pieces
Posted By: Dave Sun, Nov 11, 2012 IP: 119.74.110.51 Came across these images as part of my weekly dose of Chinese Jade appreciation. |
Subject:Re: Some Chinese Jade Pieces
Posted By: LEE Mon, Nov 12, 2012 The first piece is a replica soaked in blackish brown dye. The second is a replica ming cup. The chilongs are wrongly carved and the jade color is not typical of ming period and the third is late qing jadeite cong vase. |
Subject:Re: Some Chinese Jade Pieces
Posted By: LEE Mon, Nov 12, 2012 jade typically used in the ming dynasty for vessels such as basins, stem cups and scholar objects and vases have black inclusion and cracks with brown vein such as these from the capital museum Beijing. The only category of objects made from pure colored jade in this period are pendants, hair pins and ornaments, belt buckels and plaques. May be because the supply of jade wasn't abundant and the good quality stuff were used for jewellery. |
Subject:Re: Some Chinese Jade Pieces
Posted By: adam Mon, Nov 12, 2012 1)The sword guard is carved in the han style but appears to be iron bladed(by the appearance of the corrosion), although iron edged (and aerodosite) blades were made by the Han (and earlier), it doesnt sit right with me, could be Song , Ming or modern reproduction (would need a close look) |
Subject:Re: Some Chinese Jade Pieces
Posted By: adam Tue, Nov 13, 2012 Regards Ming jade coloring... |
Subject:Re: Some Chinese Jade Pieces
Posted By: LEE Wed, Nov 14, 2012 Hi Adam, some Ming pieces have been dyed by roasting them in burning wood chip. However it is not known if some of this black coloring in the fissures were due to this sort of staining process or if it was the result of house fire like a palace or a temple burning down. It is commonly found also in song and yuan jade like the giant wine vessel at Behai park. I have a few pieces that have this effect will post their pics when I have time. |
Subject:Re: Some Chinese Jade Pieces
Posted By: LEE Mon, Nov 19, 2012 Hi Dave, I suspect the technique of dyeing jade in the ming and early qing dynasty was by smoking the piece rather than roasting it. The carbon particle of the smoke will stain the fissures in the jade. They do not crack the jade or create wide fissures. It gives the jade a blackish fissured look, but the surface is not severely affected by wide cracks. first 2 ming jade stained by smoking last pic jade altered by fire |
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