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Subject:INFO NEEDED TO DATE CHINESE all over flowers VASE
Posted By: Andrew Wed, Jun 13, 2012 IP: 124.187.231.58

A warm Hello to all,
I humbly request any knowledgeable people who may be able to advise date of production of this vase? & is it Chinese?
Seems to have a very elegant shape
It measures about 13 inches high, is made of very light & delicate, white,translucent porcelain with hand painted enamels & has a painted mark on the base.
Some damage & old staining.
All comments most welcome.
thanking all,
from a very amateur collector.







Subject:Re: INFO NEEDED TO DATE CHINESE all over flowers VASE
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Jun 15, 2012

The vase's apocryhal mark of the 18th century Qianlong emperor has a calligraphic characteristic in its first (da - great) character that appears to me to date it to the 19th century or later. Also, the 'mille fleurs' (thousand flower) pattern veers somewhat from the design and palette that were standard on such dishes, which were some of the most popular export ceramics produced in China during the late Qing and early Republic period. My overall impression is that this vase may be a late 20th century product.

A picture of a 19th century Chinese vase of the same form but standard pattern (albeit famille rose on a black ground) is included herewith.

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: INFO NEEDED TO DATE CHINESE all over flowers VASE
Posted By: jane hogan Wed, Aug 29, 2012

My parents married in Shanghai in 1925 and a teaset in this patteren was given as a gift to them by a Chines friend. It also has the black background as seen in the vase, lots of beautiful painting. I was told it was before the 1900's. would like to know more

Subject:Re: INFO NEEDED TO DATE CHINESE all over flowers VASE
Posted By: Arjan Fri, Jun 15, 2012

Hi Andrew,

Yes it is Chinese and the mark reads "Da Qing Qianlong nian zhi" but certainly not from that period. My guess for a dating; 1960's or later.

Regards,

Arjan

Subject:Re: INFO NEEDED TO DATE CHINESE all over flowers VASE
Posted By: Dave C Fri, Jun 15, 2012

I am new to all this myself but I think I have found the info your looking for. The mark is Da Qing Qianlong Nian Zhi, Great Qing Qianlong Period Make, probably from the 1930-40's.
I have included a link to the page I found it on.

Good luck.
Dave C


URL Title :Qing Dynasty Marks


Subject:Re: INFO NEEDED TO DATE CHINESE all over flowers VASE
Posted By: toan Fri, Jun 15, 2012

Hi there
Im my humble opinion your vase is Chinese,it is decorated in what is known as Mille fleurs (thousand flowers)
It is marked DA QING QIANLONG NIAN ZHI (MADE IN THE QING DYNASTY QIANLONG PERIOD) but1 I think thic is a late 19 century product and possibly early 20th century
Kind regards
Toan

Subject:Re: INFO NEEDED TO DATE CHINESE all over flowers VASE
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Jun 15, 2012

In addition to my previous posting, here is a link to a Sotheby's auction result with an illustration of a Jiaqing era (1796-1820) mille fleurs box. This will provide an excellent illustration of an earlier version of the pattern. The zoom feature also permits a close-up view of differences between decoration on your vase and a piece in the period style. Due to the length of the URL, I'm pasting it below for copying and pasting into your browser.

Best regards,

Bill H.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/catalogues/ecatalogue.html/2012/arts-dasie-pf1207#/r=/en/ecat.fhtml.PF1207.html+r.m=/en/ecat.lot.PF1207.html/64/


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