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Subject:Tea cups
Posted By: Heath Guinn Tue, Jul 07, 2020 IP: 2600:387:1:808::33 I would like some help identifying these tea cups please? |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: plasticman Wed, Jul 08, 2020 Made by the "Royal Vienna" company. The mark is supposed to be a shield, but is called a "beehive " by common descriptions. The older pieces have the mark under the glaze, with more recent products having it overglaze. |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: Heath Guinn Thu, Jul 09, 2020 Thank you for sharing this info with me. I really appreciate your time. |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: Edison Wed, Jul 08, 2020 Hi how can I contact you? please leave your email. |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: Heath Guinn Thu, Jul 09, 2020 Hi Edison, my email is Heath.guinn@hotmail.com |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: Martin Michels Thu, Jul 09, 2020 This looks like a beehive mark by Arnart Imports Inc. |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Jul 09, 2020 According to the 'Kovels New Dictionary of Marks', the Royal Porcelain Manufactory in Vienna, Austria wasn't the only European maker using the beehive symbol. Variations were employed by Akerman & Fritze, Volkstedt in Germany (1908-present); Phillip Aigner, Vienna, circa 1900; Bourdois & Bloch, Paris (Ca 1900); Carl Knoll, Fischern, Bohemia (later Czechoslovakia - 1848-1945); Langeweisen Factory, Germany (1892 - present), and Edme Samson, Paris, (1845 - 1905). According to Kovels, the original marks were hand-painted, Later copies were over the glaze and detectable by running a fingernail across them. |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: Heath Guinn Thu, Jul 09, 2020 Martin, thank you for responding again. I really appreciate your time. |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: plasticman Thu, Jul 09, 2020 The hallmark shown for the Japanese company is different from the Vienna work. Notice the Line below the "beehive" and the dot above,neither one or the other appears on the cup. Also, the gilt edged cup is very typical of the Vienna products and is of much finer quality than the "art" pieces made in a later period in Japan. |
Subject:Re: Tea cups
Posted By: plasticman Fri, Jul 10, 2020 The marks quoted to be "like" the Royal Vienna shield, by Kovel, turn out to be on close inspection very dissimilar from the Vienna products. I have, in years past, bought and traded over 20 pieces of Royal Vienna porcelain. When the cup in question came on line,I recognized the pattern from that background before even looking at the hallmark.Using a list made by authors who cater to neophytes searching for a clue as to attribution does not trump hands on experience recognition. |
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