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Antique ancestor paintings 
( China & Japan ) - J Donnellon - Jan 27, 2001 (04:28 PM) - Antique ancestor paintings - Anthony M. Lee - Jan 28, 2001 (01:12 PM)
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Subject:Antique ancestor paintings
Posted By: J Donnellon Sat, Jan 27, 2001 Can anyone help with ID of rank,status,area and dating (desirability, value etc)of these two gouache or tempera paintings on paper affixed to a beige brocade backing sheet.Detail is very fine. The sheet that the old man is painted on is 41 1/2" x 24" (excluding backing sheet) and the younger is about 28" x 24". Paint is bright and excellent. One has a few creases.I don't see a chop or signature - is this typical ? Thank you. 
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Subject:Antique ancestor paintings
Posted By: Anthony M. Lee Sun, Jan 28, 2001 The lady in question is the wife of an eighth rank civil official (if I am seeing the bird correctly as a light coloured quail). The face is photographic in style, denoting a post 1880-1911 dating, and possibly early 20th century even after the fall of the Imperial dynasty. They are very collectable in the market and there is demand especially in the US.
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