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Subject:large bowl with script
Posted By: david Fri, Nov 03, 2017 IP: 2607:fea8:1d5f:f819: Hello, Can someone please give me a date on this large 11 1/8" dia x 2 1/2" high bowl? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! David. |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: JLim Sat, Nov 04, 2017
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Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: JLim Sat, Nov 04, 2017
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Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: Endre Mon, Nov 06, 2017 I agree with JLim, I think provincial maybe Zhangzhou Swatow Ware 19th century |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: JLim Thu, Nov 09, 2017
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Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: Endre Fri, Nov 10, 2017 JLim, thanks for bringing that up, Zhangzhou Swatow Ware late 19th century is what I have seen described on eBay listings from a seller in Maryland USA for very similar plates with the three characteristics I notice...crackle, minyao design, and what looks like a fu mark. I’m not expert of course and i see it does look strikingly like the Borneo examples aside from the crackle, but yes we can all agree it’s not Ming and I guess I will clarify that I did not suggest that. I searched quickly on pater gratia which are all Ming swatow and apparently different, also I searched eBay for similar. I only made suggestion for consideration. Borneo, China, Vietnam, or wherever- it is nice looking in my opinion. I like this style and I would buy it if I saw it for a price I could afford, and this conversation has led me to new things for future researching- thank you David, JLim, and RogerD |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: RogerD Fri, Nov 10, 2017 J Lim: |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: RogerD Mon, Nov 06, 2017 I think your bowl is from the Chinese kilns in Borneo. I have a similar piece but it is in storage so I can't photograph it, but you can see one for sale at Borneo Artifacts. Search for plate. |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: RogerD Mon, Nov 06, 2017 Here are pics of the bowl for sale at Borneo Artifacts. |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: david Tue, Nov 07, 2017 Thank you very much JLim, Roger and Endre! David. |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: david Sun, Nov 12, 2017 Hello all, I was following all of the "internal" discussions on my Swatow plate/ bowl. So what would be the final consensus on this plate? Thank you! David. |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: JLim Mon, Nov 13, 2017
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Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: Endre Mon, Nov 13, 2017 Sorry David, I was also hoping to get a final answer about your piece as well. I am not an expert of course, but I still believe it is late 19th century or maybe early 20th century to give an amateur answer to your question. I only compare it to what I can see in images, I have not held something like this before. The footrim looks lacking of kiln grit which is typical of Ming swatow. I think the word swatow is used sometimes to describe the style, kitchen Qing is probably the more accurate and non confusing term. I think it’s wonderful that items and techniques are still used from centuries past and the skills have traveled to many places. Thank you again David for sharing this bowl |
Subject:Re: large bowl with script
Posted By: david Tue, Nov 14, 2017 Thank you very much J Lim and Endre for all the info you have shared on this piece! David. |
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