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Subject:Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: Miano Sat, Nov 04, 2017 IP: 112.211.215.138

Hello Friends,

I would like to identify the artist and/or period.

It is a scroll, ink and color on paper, has calligraphy and only one seal. Would you be in a position to translate the characters/seal, advise any artist who this work maybe attributed to and the period(60 year cycle)?

Kind regards,

Miano







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Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: I.Nagy Mon, Nov 06, 2017

Reading of text:
溪山會友 Fellow Member of Mountain and Stream Association
壬辰年冬  Year of Water-Dragon (...1952,2012)
Seal reads,
猿 Yuan (Monkey) Possibly art-name of painter

With regards、I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: rat Tue, Nov 07, 2017

"Friends meeting amid streams and mountains". Dated winter 2012. Can't determine the artist's name from the information here

Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: Miano Wed, Nov 15, 2017

Thank you both for the kind support.

Rat what makes you suggest 2012, rather than 1952? If I review the condition, the discoloration (acidity) on the paper only appears after extensive exposure to elements. This to me would suggest the latter cycle of 1952.

Thanks,

Miano


Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: rat Wed, Nov 15, 2017

Am proposing 2012 on stylistic grounds. In 1952, no one was painting pictures with this combination of realism and detail in ink but broad splotches of uniform color (that don't even attempt to stay within the boundaries of the tree foliage). Rather I think this is a mass-market print dating from 2012.

Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: Miano Wed, Nov 15, 2017

Hello Rat,

Thanks for the input. However, you might want to review that thought.

Bai Xueshi (1915-2011) who was an expert in realist landscape paintings (even in full color). He employed the same brush strokes to achieve a remarkable effect {combination of realism and detail in ink}.
A study of the trunks in the piece "Under the Big Banyan Tree" and reflections of the river in the piece "Li Jiang River (1982)" illustrate this.

Thanks,

Miano





Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: Rat Thu, Nov 16, 2017

I understand your point, and agree that there were mid 20th century painters who did precise work that integrated color and ink. My point in the previous post is that the picture you're showing does a poor job of integrating color and ink.

Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: JLim Sun, Nov 19, 2017



Dear rat

Are you saying this image is printed and not painted by hand? If I look at the calligraphy in the first image I can well believe it, though I dare say this would require closer examination to be sure.

Kind regards
J.Lim

Subject:Re: Identification of Chinese Painting Characters
Posted By: rat Mon, Nov 20, 2017

yup, though photos always obscure something that only in person examination will reveal


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