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Subject:Help me to identify my teapot 2.
Posted By: John Wed, Jan 20, 2021 IP:

Hi for everyone

I’ve been collecting for a long time now, but there are a couple of pieces I couldn’t identify, I hope here I’ll find answers.
My first item a very nice I think Japanese teapot
I couldn't find the same stamp, and because I can't read it , I don't know nothing about it, but beautiful for me.
I think bluish green carved celadon pottery ,makermark and artist sign

Sorry last time uploaded without images, hre are they.
: maybe the mark is up side down

Thank you

Subject:Re: Help me to identify my teapot 2.
Posted By: John Thu, Jan 21, 2021

I see the picture quality get bad after resizing
Hope this will be better.

Subject:Re: Help me to identify my teapot 2.
Posted By: I.Nagy Sun, Jan 24, 2021

It is Korean,
石峴      - Seok-hyeon
八山陶窯    - Palsan Pottery Kiln

With regards,

Subject:Re: Help me to identify my teapot 2.
Posted By: John Mon, Jan 25, 2021

Dear Nagy

Thank you for translate me the seal mark , after opened your letter with the information, started to do some research of the details you given.
I must use the words up side down , because I found nothing about Seok-hyeon , just a teenager actor , and nothing about Palsan pottery, what I found is Pal San was a Korean potters in who were brought back to Japan after Hideyoshi's invasions at the end of the 16th century. Lord Nagamasa Kuroda established the first kiln in 1600 at the foot of Mt. Takatori. Pal San, a Korean potter, was later know as Hassan and subsequently adopted the name Takatori.

Can you be so kind and tell me a little bit more about it, was I close or not even a little bit?



Subject:Re: Help me to identify my teapot 2.
Posted By: I.Nagy Tue, Jan 26, 2021

Dear John,
One thing is sure, 石峴 is a place name (cca. Stone Hill). The second character 峴 is used in Korean and Chinese place names only - there is not Japanese place name containing this character. So the Japanese origin can be ruled out by all odds. In Korea I have found at least two village names with these characters - but it can be a place name within a larger town or city, too.
The village name - Seok-Hyeon - is not romanized, it is in Korean Hangul script and in Chinese characters in parentheses, therefore you can't Google it up in English.
After this there is nothing left but the transcription of the kiln name into romanized Korean 八山陶窯 Palsan do-yo "Palsan Pottery Kiln"
For better understanding, in Korea the change of writing system from the pre-war historic Hanja (Chinese character) mixed with Hangul (Korean alphabet) use has now entered into its final stage
the Hangul (Korean alphabet) only use with the full spread of internet. For example the Korean version of Google uses only Hangul script, however some segment of the society is still using the traditional Chinese characters e.g. pottery industry etc. There is an another problem with the romanization of the Korean language, they use at least 3 different systems.  According to them
our village name can be romanized as;
Seok-hyeon, Sôk-hyôn or Sek-hyen

By the way, I noted that your teapot looks more Korean than Japanese.

With regards,

Subject:Re: Help me to identify my teapot 2.
Posted By: John Fri, Feb 12, 2021

Dear I Nagy

Sorry for my delayed response, but in the big search I broke my device.
Back to the objects, there is no information from this , like never been made , someone said this porcelain ewer made by the artist named Shixian

Wu Shixian 1845-1916
also known as Wu Qingyun, was a Chinese landscape painter during the Qing dynasty ,but also he's got some ceramics, but is very rare I found only some pictures of it.
He always signed as Shixian only.
What do you think?

I never thought after we got the pottery identification mark , we will still not be able to identify the object , some pottery has no mark but just from the pattern can be possible to identify.

Best Regards
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