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Subject:Qianlong dish
Posted By: alex Sat, Apr 29, 2023 IP: 2a02:a462:5d7d:1:903

is this a qianlong dish?







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Subject:Re: Qianlong dish
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Apr 30, 2023

The pattern on your platter featuring a cloud border typically is called "Canton" porcelain for its lower quality of decoration than the wares called "Nanking", some of which do date to the Qianlong reign. Most Canton wares I've seen are of the first half on the 19th century.

Nanking porcelains were so named because shipments of them left China via the eastern port of Nanjing. Canton wares were named for the foreign trading center in the southern Guangdong Province capital now called Guangzhou. Use of these two descriptive terms dates back to the respective periods of their manufacture.

I've attached a photo of a 13-inch "Nanking" platter of the Qianlong reign for comparison.

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: Qianlong dish
Posted By: Mark Adams Sun, Apr 30, 2023

Nice dish but in my opinion it'later than Qianlong.
The border is sloppy and the central design is stiffly depicted.
Canton ware... perhaps later Guangxu or perhaps early republic period in my opinion.So 1890-1920:or there abouts
Regards,
Mark@imperial
Adams Asian Art

Subject:Re: Qianlong dish
Posted By: alex Sun, Apr 30, 2023

Thanks for all the info.

Subject:Re: Qianlong dish
Posted By: Bill H Mon, May 01, 2023

I thrive on other opinions and am willing to call it “Nanking style” as a compromise while knowing that Nanking, like all Chinese patterns except imperial, varied in quality by manufacturer even in the 18th century. Before posting, I also checked my Jean McClure Mudge book on Chinese porcelain for export to the West and finding nothing to indicate Nanking wares were exported to the USA in the 19th century. But I have never claimed to be perfect.

Cheers,

Bill


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