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Subject:Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: jack venti Mon, Nov 07, 2022 IP: 2a0d:5600:8:9e:ae::1

Cannot find the seal, I know that it was extensively used in the Kano school. The signature reads Yasunobu but the seal, I couldn't identify.

Thank you!



Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: I.Nagy Tue, Nov 08, 2022

Signature;
安信筆 - Yasunobu-hitsu - Painted by Yasunobu
The jar-shaped artistic seal reads;
安信  - Yasunobu

It was used by Kanō Yasunobu

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: jack venti Wed, Nov 09, 2022

Wow, thank you so much! so it is possible that the scroll is a Yasunobu authentic one. Could you please give me a reference/link for the jar hanko, because I spend hours looking on the net and found nothing.
Also maybe you can recommend a good seal encyclopedia?







Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: I.Nagy Sat, Nov 12, 2022

Herewith I send the picture of the Yasunobu jar-shaped seal.
Source; 日本畫家典 (落款編 p.770) 大学堂書店
昭和二年初版、昭和四十五年再販 ( Vol.1, 人名編、Vol.2, 落款編)

I.Nagy



Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: peter Sat, Nov 12, 2022

it is always amazing to see how careless are reproduced again and again old, incorrect woodblock prints in Japanese art publications.
The seals posted look very much the wood block prints in my Kano Sosen seal collection.

Seals should only be compared to real paintings. A seal in a book unrelated to a real artwork you can check it with is not really a reference you can trust.
I could not find the jar, but the boukshinsai seal I have plenty at home and in the painting in the Met one could easy see how far of is your book from the real seal:
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/55292

The jar seal on the posted artwork is also much better carved than the seal in the book 日本畫家典. As in the painting itself quality should be considered for the seals too.

So no, I do not think there is a good book on Japanese seals.

Peter

Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: jack venti Tue, Nov 15, 2022

Thank you so much for the reference

Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: peter Sat, Nov 12, 2022

as this seems to be a handscroll it would be good to see the whole artwork. Based on the two pics you posted, I would say the Kansan Jittoku piece looks very much like a Yasunobu figure painting. I could provide you with photos of a set with this topic, but would not post it as I do not know who owns this now.
The white heron is also very high quality but is quite elegant. I have never seen a painting like this but he is certainly able to do this.

Peter

Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: jack venti Tue, Nov 15, 2022

https://imgur.com/a/A5fAPXm

Here is the complete set of the emakimono scroll

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Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: peter Wed, Nov 16, 2022

I sent a mail to your given adress with some images.
Peter

Subject:Re: Looking for identification for a possible Kano Yasunobu scroll
Posted By: peter Wed, Nov 09, 2022

In case you want a serious opinion, you would need to show the painting. Peter


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