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Subject:Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Bogdan Thu, Jan 20, 2022 IP: 78.97.132.29

Hi all,
Could you, please, help me with the translation of writings from few kakejiku scrolls.
Kakejiku 1 and 3 are japanes, but kakejiku 2 is (maybe) chinese.
Many thanks in advance!










Link :Bogdan


Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Corneliu Bogdan Nicolae Fri, Jan 21, 2022

Each scroll have a writing on back side.
Please tell me, if possible, who the authors are. Any information is welcome.







Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: I.Nagy Sat, Jan 22, 2022

Pic.1,
泰山先生 水墨 山水圖 
Mr. Taizan Ink Landscape

Pic.2,
魚釣  Fishing

Pic.3,
文僊之筆 後赤壁圖 
Painted by Bunsen Picture of Go-Sekiheki*
(Red Cliff)

* Famous historical site in China revived in the famous Song Dynasty poet Su Shi's "Ode to the Red Cliff", and often depicted by painters.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Corneliu Bogdan Nicolae Fri, Jan 21, 2022

This is kakejiku no 2. It presents a rather unusual scene. Please, can you clarify this scene for me? It is something anecdotal or ?



Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: I.Nagy Sat, Jan 22, 2022

Pic.1,
Signature and seal,
泰山 - Taizan

Tatewaki Taizan 立脇泰山 1886-1970
Graduated from Kyōto University of Arts. Later studied under Takeuchi Seihō. After the war he became the chairman of the Hyōgo Prefecture Japanese Painters Associatiation

Picture 2,
八十之老人得山荘 - The 80 Years Old Tokusansō
Seal,
吐墨菴主 - Toboku'an-shu (Owner of the ink-spitting hut)

Both names are pseudonyms. I can't idetify them.

Picture 3,
文僊筆 - Bunsen-hitsu - Painted by Bunsen
Seal,
I can't decipher it, could be 池上 ikegami

Ikegami Bunsen 池上文僊 1887-1921
Was the disciple of Nomura Bunkyo. Was good at lamdscapes and Buddhist pictures.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Bogdan Sat, Jan 22, 2022

Thank you very much Mr. I. Nagy! Your answer it is a gift for me. Please, if you are kind, look at this kakejiku as well. Can you please tell me who is the painter?

With gratitude,
Bogdan Beldianu





Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: kr555 Sun, Jan 23, 2022

文晁筆
Tani Buncho 谷文晁 (1763-1840)
(but it seems to be a fake, not the real Buncho)
Regards,
Alexander

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Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: I.Nagy Sun, Jan 23, 2022

Signature,
文晁 - Bunchō
Seal,
畫學齋 - Gagakusai

Tani Bunchō 谷文晁 1763-1841
Japanese painter
Gagakusai was one of his pseudonyms.

The kakejiku is a vintage reproduction.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: peter Mon, Jan 24, 2022

it says to be painted by Tani Bunchou. but while there is no reason to mistrust the other scrolls you posted I would not think this a Bunchou painting. its a forgery.
The painting with the fishing scenery is probably referencing to Yan Ziling. who preferred a life of fishing over a post at the Han court.

for questions regarding iconography you always could go to this page:
http://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/
you could search here for certain terms and might find your answer.

peter

Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Bogdan Mon, Jan 24, 2022

Thank you all very much for all the information! Thank you Peter for link!In the next days I will study this sit. Looks to be very usefull.
It is sad to know is not original, only a copy or fake, but for me remaining a lovely painting. Is one of my favorite.
If you have few moments I want to show another kakejiku.
It's another one of my favorites (only a waterfall), even though I don't know anything about the author. It seems to be written more than the author's name.





Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Bogdan Mon, Jan 24, 2022

This kakejiku was sold to me like an opera signed by Ikeno Taiga. I like the movement of the branch and the flutter of the bird captured in this painting.
Any opinion about scroll, signature and seal it is much appreciated.
Thank you very much,
Bogdan Beldianu





Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: I.Nagy Tue, Jan 25, 2022

Pic.1-2,

Inscription,
瀑布飛虹 - Waterfall and rainbow
Signature,
自得山人 - Jitoku-sanjin (Contended recluse) - Art-name
Seal;
The print is not clear enough, but probably reads;
自得 Jitoku

Matsuno Jitoku 松野自得 1891- ?
Priest, haiku-poet and painter. Learned painting from Yamanouchi Tamon 山内多門. He was good at landscape painting.
His original name was Matsuno Tadakuni 松野忠州.

Pic.3-4,

Signature,
椿山主 - Chinzan-shu (Owner of the camelia hill) - Art-name
Upper seal,
椿山 - Chinzan (Camelia hill) - Other art-name
Lower seal,
琢華 - Takuka (Carved flower)  - Other art-name

Tsubaki Chinzan 椿椿山 1801-1854
Nanga style painter
(Further details on Wikipedia)

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: peter Wed, Jan 26, 2022

signature (chinzansei 椿山生) and seals ( chinzan 椿山 and takuka 琢華)attribute this falsely to Tsubaki Chinzan. His painting style is very different though.
As you seem to like the paintings a word:
Please understand that any statements on authenticity are always a personal opinion not more. they might be well founded but often are not, even with so called experts. So do not hesitate to check for yourself by comparing to published artworks. This will improve your understanding of quality step by step.
peter

Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Bogdan Wed, Jan 26, 2022

Thank you very much, Nagy and Peter!
Any advice is always welcome!
When I bought a kakejiku I did it because it inspired me in one form or another, not for the author. Obviously the author is also very interesting, he also helps me to better understand the painting.
If you are kind, please, look at two other kakejik`s.
The first one illustrate an interesting scene, with some literati. Certainly are not the six Japanese poets (Rokkasen) and not an image of "Orchid Pavilion Gathering". Looks like a humorous allusion at an event with literati.
The second kakejiku, with a rat, seems to be a reference to that zodiac sign (I think it was probably a gift for someone in the rat zodiac sign).
Many thanks in advance for any information!







Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: I.Nagy Thu, Jan 27, 2022

Pic.1,
Signature、
橆名 - Arina - Art-name used by Ike no Taiga
Upper seal,
紀時敏印 - Seal of Ki Jibin (Tokitoshi)
This seal belonged to Ki Baitei 紀楳亭 1734-1810
(Jibin (Tokitoshi) was his art-name)
Lower seal,
三岳道者 - Sangaku Dōsha - Another art-name used by Ike no Taiga

Pic.2,
Right side,
祝松原篤蔵氏還暦之壽 - Celebration of Mr. Matsubara Tokuzō's 60th Birthday
呈供画 - Picture present
Signature,
怡鴻  - Ikō (The second character could be 雁
→ 怡雁 Igan)


Seal,
Not clear enough to read

Left side,
小田巻の糸をくりかへしく
子のとしの暮で
丑の還暦
Oda-maki no ito kurikaeshiku
ne no toshi no kure de
ushi no kanreki
(Alternative kanas are transcribed into their modern forms)

Repeatedly like the thread would weave on an Odamaki*,
After the end of Year of Rat
comes the 60th birthday in the Year of Ox

Signature,
霊山人福顕 - Reizanjin Fukken - Art-name
Seals are not clear enough to read.

* Hemp yarn wound into a hollow ball

With regards,
I.Nagy


Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Bogdan Thu, Jan 27, 2022

Dear Mr. I. Nagy,

Thank you very much! You have some fabulous knowledge of Japanese. I envy you in a positive way.

With gratitude,
Bogdan Beldianu

Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: peter Tue, Feb 01, 2022

pic1 - ike taiga

the first seal is a well known seal 池橆名印.
probably the two seals are on one stone as they appear usually together.
here however they do not compare well to other paintings. disappointing as the finger painting is fitting the style and signature is also acceptable.

I add an example of his finger paintings.



Subject:Re: Writings on few kakejiku scrolls
Posted By: Beldianu Bogdan Wed, Feb 02, 2022

Thank you for explanation! But, please, can you tell me something about subject of this painting?


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