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Subject:Cloisonne Vases - Origin and Time Period
Posted By: Jerry Wed, Dec 29, 2021 IP: 24.209.216.178
I would like some help with the marks on these Cloisonne vases. Also, an estimated time period they were produced.





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Subject:Re: Cloisonne Vases - Origin and Time Period
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Dec 30, 2021
Your pair of cloisonne vases were products of a shop called Lao Tianli (老天利) or Yang Tianli (楊天利), which operated in Beijing during the late Qing -early Republic period and is known for the quality of its products.

Here's a link to additional information and discussion of this source of fine cloisonne, which usually brings premium prices whenever found on the market nowadays. Google "Lao tian li" for examples.

Best regards,

Bill H.

URL Title :Lao Tianli


Subject:Re: Cloisonne Vases - Origin and Time Period
Posted By: Jerry Fri, Dec 31, 2021
Thank You Bill H.

Subject:Re: Cloisonne Vases - Origin and Time Period
Posted By: jonathan Thu, Dec 30, 2021
Hello, Chinese 20th century. Could be late 19th but hard to tell from the photos. Would need close up of the enamel. Marks are apocryphal.

Subject:Re: Cloisonne Vases - Origin and Time Period
Posted By: Jerry Fri, Dec 31, 2021
Thank you, Jonathan

Subject:Re: Cloisonne Vases - Origin and Time Period
Posted By: Pei Thu, Dec 30, 2021
Your cloisonné vases are from a good brand “Lao tian li ”, and I think they are from late Qing dynasties to the first half of 20th century.
The marking“老天利制”means made by “Lao tian li ”。
Now some company in China is using the same brand producing cloisonné. Be careful.
Pei

Subject:Re: Cloisonne Vases - Origin and Time Period
Posted By: Jerry Fri, Dec 31, 2021
Thank You Pei

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