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Subject:Large 18 Inch Diameter Charger Is It Chinese or Japanese ???
Posted By: Gary Thu, May 13, 2021 IP: 2a00:23c7:d20b:7801:

Can anyone identify this large 18 inch diameter charger,, my thoughts where Japanese?? but it has a 5 claw dragon!!! so is it Chinese?? it's porcelain and rings when tapped.







Subject:Re: Large 18 Inch Diameter Charger Is It Chinese or Japanese ???
Posted By: Martin Michels Fri, May 14, 2021

Despite the dragon with the 5 claws, it's Japanese.
The 3 dots on the bottom are typical on old Japanese plates (sometimes even 5 or 7) and are not found on Chinese plates, which have a smooth surface.
Regards,
Martin.

Subject:Re: Large 18 Inch Diameter Charger Is It Chinese or Japanese ???
Posted By: Mark Adams Fri, May 14, 2021

Hi Gary,
In my opinion it's a Japanese charger. Circa Meiji period 1868-1912.
Despite what dealers think or have learnt Japanese dragons do sometimes have 5 claws. I have seen a number of pieces.
The presence of the outer blue line on the base is distinctly Japanese.
Nice piece.
Regards,
Mark@imperial

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Subject:Re: Large 18 Inch Diameter Charger Is It Chinese or Japanese ???
Posted By: Suzume Fri, May 14, 2021

Hi,

In my opinion what you have there is a Japanese arita/imari charger. It wasn't uncommon for the Japanese to represent the five toed imperial dragon.

I think it's probably 19th century.

It's very nice.

I hope this helps!

Regards,

Subject:Re: Large 18 Inch Diameter Charger Is It Chinese or Japanese ???
Posted By: Geoff Fri, May 14, 2021

Definitely Japanese. You can tell by the firing support marks to the base. :-)


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