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Subject:Fu Baoshi
Posted By: jeff sutton Sat, Jan 21, 2023 IP: 2600:6c4a:423f:7029:

Hi - I just picked this up at an auction and it is claimed to be a fu baoshi by way of Cao Rulin's personal collection. I was wondering if anyone could help with the translation. Thanks in advance

Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: I.Nagy Sat, Jan 21, 2023

To Runtian, my brother, I would like to thank you for your guidance.
In December of the Year of Water-Sheep (1943)
Painted by Baoshi at Dongchuan Jingangpo
傳 Fu

Back side,
傳抱石寫 生山水
Painting from Fu Baoshi Original landscape
覚盦 Jue`an Pseudonym (of Runtian)
潤田 Runtian (to whom the painter dedicated the painting)

With regards,

Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: jeff sutton Mon, Jan 23, 2023

Thank you very much for taking the time to translate the script and seals I.Nagy! I really appreciate all you and Rat and everyone else does around here. It appears Runtian was the courtesy name of Cao Rulin so that checks out. Thanks

Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: rat Tue, Jan 24, 2023

Thanks for the kind words, Jeff, but I. Nagy really does all the heavy lifting around here.

I hesitated to comment but this seems an appropriate moment to ask you to compare this picture to other works that Fu Baoshi painted in 1943. His style was
already reasonably mature then, and I'm concerned about the bright blue foliage and relative crudeness of the figures in this scroll.
For instance, compare this landscape:

These figures (albeit at a larger scale than yours are intended):

More broadly see

Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: jeff sutton Tue, Jan 24, 2023

I tend to agree with you on the crudeness of the figures. There is another version of this I have found that isn't as broad of a view of the same scene - not sure if mine is an attempt to copy this - Paid a decent bit but I like it and nothing too crazy so not stressing it. Cheers

Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: jeff sutton Wed, Jan 25, 2023

This is the link to that version -

Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: peter Tue, Jan 24, 2023

seems to be a nice catch! in a fine older mounting. you probably can even confirm the writing on the slip? I find the trees in the corner very interesting, something oldfashioned. Whats the size?


Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: jeff sutton Tue, Jan 24, 2023

The image size on this guy is 100cm by 50cm - so a decent size painting.


Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: peter Wed, Jan 25, 2023

A bit bigger than I thought.
I don't think a too eclectic approach is appropriate for Fu Baoshi. There are not two paintings really alike in style, no face seems to be repeated simply.
Your painting is entertaining and provides a great depth, and all details have their part in this (also the red and green tree in the corner). The figures are more important in their position than in their shape. It is executed in techniques which are difficult and not easy to obtain, especially the underrated ink and color wash guiding the light through the composition. It is on the right paper and comes with an old mounting and a reasonable history.
Its a painting each time you hang, it will make you ask yourself why the hell you should doubt it.


Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: jeff sutton Thu, Jan 26, 2023

Thank you Peter - Much appreciated

Subject:Re: Fu Baoshi
Posted By: Will Tue, Feb 21, 2023


I am by no means an expert but I do not believe that this is an authentic painting by Fu Baoshi.
Well there is certainly something fishy about it.

I am not sure anymore but I think I have read somewhere that the auction house (MS eA G) is known for selling fakes.

When you search for sales in the past you can see that this auction house had sold this painting 8 times between 2021 and 2022.
But apparently no one paid for it.

Lastly the price you paid is way too low for an authenic Fu Baoshi painting.
I suspect that you might own some kind of a copy.

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