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Subject:Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: Fred Wed, Nov 17, 2021 IP: 2001:8003:dd24:d701:

Hi Members
Any info would be appreciated about this Chinese box,does anyone know the company that made these and when?
should this one be cleaned or left as it is?
may be a personal choice.

Fred.







Subject:Re: Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: Paul Thu, Nov 18, 2021

Late 19th C. to 1930s. No particular maker. Made in Shanghai or other large coastal Chinese city. Don't polish it. It looks clean enough. I like these, and have a few.

Subject:Re: Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: Fred Sat, Nov 20, 2021

Hello Paul
Many thanks for the info,fantastic,we may find maker one day,I feel an interesting box to add to my box collection of small boxes. (English,French,German,Italian,Japanese,etc)
I feel these ones are underrated and the quality is very good.
I have decided to clean it(personal choice)

Again many thanks .Fred.







Subject:Re: Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: Fred Thu, Dec 16, 2021

Hello Paul
I feel I may have found the possible maker of these boxes.The factory was called Laotianli.
Folk Cloisonne workshops ,During the Guangxu-Republic of China included Laotianli and others ,this company was the most famous.

The information comes from a signed plate ,that has a similar style,you will notice the little clouds
are the same as on my box.

I will post some pictures in a few posts.

Regards Fred.







Subject:Re: Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: fed Thu, Dec 16, 2021

More images and information.

Regards Fred.







Subject:Re: Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: Fred Thu, Dec 16, 2021

This is another indication ,that it looks like the right maker Laotianli. Of my box.

Fred.





Subject:Re: Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: Paul Thu, Dec 16, 2021

Thanks for that, Fred.

Here's a Chinese & Japanese cloisonne cloud pattern date identifier that you may find useful.




Subject:Re: Chinese cloisonne box,maker? Age?
Posted By: Fred Sat, Dec 18, 2021

Hi Paul
Great work,many thanks handy chart,have not seen this before.
great for dating items.
signed pieces also give us a clue to the unsigned ones ,comparing designs and cloud shapes.
that's how discovered the maker of my box.



Fred.


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