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Re: Real archaic pieces?

Posted By: Mircea Veleanu
Posted Date: Feb 04, 2009 (03:41 PM)

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Bill!

You are having a wild mis-conception about my intentions in posting a subject for learning purpose; I quote your writing:

"I believe you, like all other jade collectors, are having troubles in selling your "archaic jades", especially during this economic hard times and therefore you are trying your very best to convince other jade collectors especially novices like me whom you believe should "kowtow" to the expertise of jade experts like you and in trusting your expertise unquestionably by paying a large amount for so called "archaic jades" in bargain prices."

When I posted the quiz of sonorous jade, I had no intentions at all to convince any member of this Forum including yourself, to purchase any items that are on my website.
First of all, I am not a poor person and I am not depending on an income deriving from antique selling including jade.
You like to do detective work and I don't blame you for such. What I believe is un-ethical from you is to presume that I want to sell to Forum members, items listed for sale in my websites. As this Forum is dedicated to promotion of knowledge and not promotion of sale of items, your beliefs are offensive and malicious. Were you sober when you wrote the above??
Why the collectors would sell their collections ??
I thought the dealers are selling their inventory, while the collectors gathers the objects. I don't know what is "kowtow" you wrote, Is this a Cantonese expression??
I quote your writing again:

"after seeing all these pieces posted by you in this forum and in other sites, and after listening to your expertise regarding jade material including Taiwan jade (you said no nephrite jade were ever found in Taiwan) I now conclude that although you had indeed written a jade book, I do not believe you really know any more about jade especially jade material than me. I also conclude that you do not know more about dynasty jades than either Randy or for that matter, Anita. You surely do not know too much about Hongshan jade and I believe Diasi is still the one who knows Hongshan jade the most in this or other jade forum. No disrespect intended, this is just my honest appraisal. "

I believe what you are saying is the most offensive statement I have read so far!
Suddenly, you, that yourself recognize as being a novice, became an expert and render malicious opinions that are completely not based on reality. I was very much in doubt if I should respond to your nasty statement and lower myself to your level of knowledge, or just ignore your pestilent writings.
In regard to "Taiwan jade", you should read the response I posted in the Forum regarding this subject. You want to appear as a knowledgeable reader and citing different publications. You are a dangerous, ignorant person who throws mud to scholars and your arrogant behavior is despicable!!!
You are claiming that tons of nephrite was excavated from Taiwan !!!
Nothing is further from the truth than the above. The tons of excavated material was marble!!!!
At one time, Taiwan was the biggest marble exporter in the world, second only to Italy.
I don't care at all about your opinion regarding my qualifications as a jade expert and even if you would ever like to purchase jade or any antique from my websites. I would not sell to you!
Further on, I quote you:

"There is a slight possibility that a few of your pieces may be as archaic as you described and they might be truly "vetted" by jade collectors as you said. If that is truly the case, then I believe you should have no troubles in selling them via large auction houses to all these jade collectors with huge wallets and will not need to humble yourself in showing your great piece in this or other forum."

I am not humbling myself by exhibiting jade pieces from my collection to this Forum members. I repeat again for your stubborn inability to comprehend what I write, I don't need to post jade items in a Forum with the hope that I will sell them to the members of the Forum. My intentions were very clear and I REPEAT again just for YOU: posting of the quiz was done without prejudice and with the only intention of promoting knowledge of the readers.
By error, this post was done on the Message Board, rather than the forum. However, no advertising of any website was ever done.
From now on, it is my pleasure to allow you to present your "jade" collection to the Forum.
I doubt that any knowledgeable expert will ever appear on this Forum with the intention to teach, when people like you discredit, insult and belittle!!!
Mircea Veleanu

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