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Subject:Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Mon, May 02, 2016 IP: 71.202.213.11 I'm hoping an Asian Arts Forum member has the ability to translate the Chinese inscription on this blue and white cup. I'm not sure if it is a poem or not. A friend did recognize the word October so we wonder if the inscription has a date as well. Thank you SO much for your time, expertise and assistance. Warm regards and happy hunting to all! |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: rat Tue, May 03, 2016 This is some of the text from a Su Shi poem known as "the Latter/Second Red Cliff Rhapsody/Ode to the Red Cliff". You can find the full text as item 4 here: |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#2 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Wed, May 04, 2016 Thank you Rat. Here are the other 3 photos that complete the inscription. |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Respect your elder Tue, May 03, 2016 Bring it to San Francisco Chinatown and pay an old Chinese gentleman to translate for you would be your best bet. |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Bill H Wed, May 04, 2016 Are you certain your cup isn't Japanese instead of Chinese? It's hard to know, since you don't show a straight-on shot of the bottom. I've seen the Tianqi (天啟 - Tenkei, in variant form 天啓) used in Japanese literal marks meaning "Heavenly Oracle", as on the base of this mini Samurai Fukusuke good luck figurine. |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Thu, May 05, 2016 Hi Bill H. I think what you mean is Chinese made for the Japanese market. Definitely made in China, during the Tianqi period. My friend who owns it is a 70 year old Japanese woman and her mother gave it to her decades ago. She also had a small 14th century Longquan dish that she used as an ashtray for decades. |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: JLim Sat, Oct 21, 2017
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Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Sun, Oct 22, 2017 Hi JLim. I agree with you. The more I studied it, the more I believed it to be a modern machine made piece. It was way too perfectly potted to be a Ming piece, particularly Tianqi. Thanks for the replying to this very old post. Where are you located? Are you a dealer or collector or both? All the best . . . Steve |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: JLim Sun, Oct 22, 2017
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Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: JLim Sun, Oct 22, 2017
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Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: JLim Tue, Oct 24, 2017
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Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: JLim Tue, Oct 24, 2017
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Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Wed, Oct 25, 2017 Hi JLim. Nice, thanks for sharing that cute little dish. Did you receive my email of the quail pair dish? |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: JLim Thu, Oct 26, 2017
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Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Fri, Oct 27, 2017 Ok, JLim, I resent with a '3' thanks. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area so that is PST Zone. |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Fri, Oct 27, 2017 Hi JLim, did that work? Please advise, thanks. |
Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: JLim Sat, Oct 28, 2017
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Subject:Re: Please help translate long Chinese inscription on blue and white cup (#1 of 2 emails - 3 photos each)
Posted By: Steve Tue, Oct 24, 2017 Hi JLim, |
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