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Subject:Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Thu, Oct 08, 2020 IP: 173.177.137.13

Any information on tea cup and saucer - see pictures?







Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Oct 11, 2020

I cant read the mark, but the rest looks Japanese, possibly Meiji (1868-1912).

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Sun, Oct 11, 2020

Thank you very much for your reply. Do you know what building is painted on the saucer?

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Oct 12, 2020

I've only traveled briefly in Japan, so have no particular skills at identifying architecture from porcelain paintings. But your cup and saucer set is identifiable as Japanese from the border treatment, which is something I've seen before.

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: I.Nagy Mon, Oct 12, 2020

Marking reads,
春光製 - Shunkō-sei - Made by Shunkō

Katō Shunkō 加藤春光 1st gen. date of birth and death unknown,
2nd gen. 1881-1958
1st gen, founded a kiln in Seto. Introduced the casting molding method in Seto prior to other Japanese potteries. Later joined the Morimura group, which ultimately set up Noritake.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Tue, Oct 13, 2020

Very interesting. Thank you very match. Do you think that this cup and saucer were manufactured somewhere between 1881 and 1958?

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: I.Nagy Wed, Oct 14, 2020

Dear Elena,
Thanks to Martin's identification of the Melboune World Fair Exhibition Building, we may say with certainity that your cup and saucer was made by the 1st gen. Katō Shunkō in 1880 for this exposition.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Wed, Oct 14, 2020

Thank you very much. Appreciated

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: I.Nagy Mon, Oct 12, 2020

I forgot about the building,
It looks like the main exhibition hall at the 1893 Chicago World's Columbian Expo. A number of Japanese porcelain makers participated the Expo.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Tue, Oct 13, 2020

I tried to find some pictures of 1893 Chicago World's Colombian Expo.The palace on the saucer shows an arch with three griffons or similar. I did not see this arch on Chicago pictures. People walking on the square in front of the palace are walking randomly (not in or out of the arch - do not look like visitors of the exhibition). No guards in front of the arch. There are not match palaces with dome roof in Asia. Maybe it was manufactured for export in Europe and is showing some European building? However, the palace does not look very much European either. The male figure in the square which is wearing a hut is looking Asian or may be European. It looks like women on the picture are wearing paranja (veil, chador, yashmak). Maybe it is Indonesian, Malaysian, Turkish ... scene? What do you think?

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Mon, Oct 12, 2020

Thank you

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Martin Michels Mon, Oct 12, 2020

I believe this a building on the 1880 World Fair in Melbourne: The Royal Exhibition Building, see picture.
Regards,
Martin.



Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Ana Tue, Oct 13, 2020

Good morning boards. my first post here, although i have been reading and learning for some time. new to collecting, so have so much to learn and experience!

saw this thread and wanted to post my cup with "similar" design. very hard to make out signature. delicate eggshell porcelain. i also thought that it was a souvenir cup from a world fair, thought it was a vienna rotunda perhaps?! your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated. thank you much, a







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Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: ana Tue, Oct 13, 2020

and a couple more images







Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: ana Tue, Oct 13, 2020

and a few more







Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Tue, Oct 13, 2020

Martin, thank you. As to the building, I look at the arch with three griffons or similar and the height of the central dome and it does not really match the 1880 World Fair in Melbourne: The Royal Exhibition Building.

Subject:Re: Tea cup and saucer
Posted By: Elena Wed, Oct 14, 2020

Martin,

I got the confirmation from another expert I. Nagy, that in fact it was manufactured for 1880 for World Fair in Melbourne. Thank you. Amazing


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