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Subject:Authenticating a Wang Bu brushpot: what does the signature say?
Posted By: Seb Fri, Nov 08, 2019 IP: 81.2.83.94

I'm trying to work out the possible date of this brushpot, and to verify it's not a fake / copy.

The base has Wang Bu's usual studio six character seal "yuan wen wu guo zhi zhai", and the side has an unusual hand-painted "Zhuxi" seal I've only found online in one place (a piece in the Jingdizhen museum).

I've not found the signature above the Zhuxi seal (pictured in the last photo) anywhere. Does anyone have any thoughts?







Subject:Re: Authenticating a Wang Bu brushpot: what does the signature say?
Posted By: rat Fri, Nov 08, 2019

Am unfamiliar with his work so cannot comment on authenticity. A couple of things are puzzling me though; I leave it to you to decide if they are relevant to authenticity:

1. why are the sparrows(?) painted with individually articulated feathers that strongly resemble bamboo leaves? this seems a very simple option, whereas the tree trunk is nicely representational in contrast to the more abstract dotting. further, the execution is not particularly good: the three upper feathers of this type on the leftmost bird end with an unattractive pooling of ink, which is absent, for instance on the following related example of (I assume genuine) his work: http://www.szsavaria.com/news/831875.html

2. is the proportion of the base occupied by the mark accurate or within the norm for this artist? the characters feel to me overly densely crowded into a small central space.

Subject:Re: Authenticating a Wang Bu brushpot: what does the signature say?
Posted By: Seb Sat, Nov 09, 2019

Thanks for your very interesting observations. The bamboo leaf feather seems a common form for this artist.

Subject:Re: Authenticating a Wang Bu brushpot: what does the signature say?
Posted By: Mark Adams Sat, Nov 09, 2019

Imo your vase is painted in the manner of Master Wang Bu.
The style is very similar to known works. However the hand is different. The masters hand tended to be heavy in places etc.
If you have a look at christies New York sale last 13 September lot # 1141. A pair of vases attributed to the master that sold for USD $43,750.
I have over the last few years seen a number of both genuine and attributes to the master.
Ultimately if you want confirmation either way you will have to show said to one of the three major auction houses for an opinion.
Still your bitong is very nice.
Mark@imperial

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Subject:Re: Authenticating a Wang Bu brushpot: what does the signature say?
Posted By: deepsourses Fri, Nov 29, 2019

I have seen this item very often in Chinese shopping apps.

Subject:Re: Authenticating a Wang Bu brushpot: what does the signature say?
Posted By: MT Sun, Dec 05, 2021

Hi i have some question over the mark that looks like 林。 Saw some items with that and what does it say? mail add is above. Thanks.


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