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Subject:Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Mary Thu, Oct 31, 2019 IP: 108.252.208.62

Hello,

My Great-Great Grandfather (Strassel) was given this scroll in Japan while he and his wife were visiting there (I believe the year was 1926); he may have been there for work, but I am unsure (he trained circus animals and work dogs). I was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about the scroll (the artist(s), what is depicted, where it is from, etc)?

Thank you.

Mary







Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Mary Fri, Nov 01, 2019

Here are some closer photos of the images.





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Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Mary Mon, Nov 04, 2019

(Sorry if this is a repeat post... I tried to upload pictures of each image, but nothing has appeared yet and it has been over 24 hours)

The entire scroll measures 68" long x 23.5" wide. Each image measures 8"x7". The images and silk (?) boarder seem to be glued to a paper backing.







Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Mary Mon, Nov 04, 2019

(more images 1)







Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Mary Mon, Nov 04, 2019

(more images 2)







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Posted By: Mary Mon, Nov 04, 2019

(more images 3)







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Posted By: Mary Mon, Nov 04, 2019

(more images 4 - the final set)







Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Stan Fri, Nov 01, 2019

This looks like a scroll that is composed of the pages of an ehon (book). I have something similar. See the link below. If you blow up some of the individual pages, someone here may be able to provide more information.

Cheers,
Stan

URL Title :Scroll of Book Pages.


Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: manuD Sat, Nov 02, 2019

I'm not sure these are pages from an ehon, I would rather assume they were small prints, Surimono size, that were mounted on a scroll. the artists might be Sōri (宗理) who also signs with a red round seal, and Hokumei (北溟), perhaps among others. These are tentative identifications, since the signatures are barely visible.

The red kid with the rooster in the middle picture is Kintaro, and the woman on the left must be the witch Yama-uba who raised Kintaro.

The samurai on the bottom right might be Nitta Yoshisada (1301-1338) throwing his sword in the water, see
http://o-getsu.jp/koesaku/2018-9-13/

One would need better resolution images to say more about this interesting scroll.

Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Willie Howard Sat, Nov 02, 2019

I did a quick search for another copy of the monkey print and came up with this in the ukiyo-e search site:

https://ukiyo-e.org/image/mia/81987

This seems to be a surimono by Ryuryukyo Shinsai (possibly a meiji or taisho copy?). Maybe all the images fall into the same category?

Willie

Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: manuD Tue, Nov 05, 2019

These are all indeed surimonos. They can be found in museum collections posted online, mostly at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. Some of them mention that the prints are reproductions. I list them in the order in which you posted them, with artist and title (from MFA). Only #2 could not be found (the seals are illegible).

1 Yanagawa Shigenobu (1787-1832) Nitta Yoshisada (1301-1338) throwing his sword in the ocean
2 ?
3 Yanagawa Shigenobu (1787-1832)
4 Ryuryukyo Shinsai (fl. 1799-1823) Monkey Carrying Gohei
5 Hishikawa Sôri (fl 1789–1818) Mother and Child by Gourd Trellis in Moonlight
6 Totoya Hokkei (1780–1850) Woman and man-servant by torii, at Benzaiten Shrine at Enoshima
7 Katsushika Hokusai (1760–1849) Young Woman Making a Tray Landscape
8 Totoya Hokkei (1780–1850) Kintaro
9 Totoya Hokkei (1780–1850) Yama-Uba
10 Katsushika Hokusai (1760–1849) Courtesan, Guest, and Pet Monkey
11 Yanagawa Shigenobu (1787-1832) The Taoist Immortal Huang Zhuping Turning Rocks into Goats
12 Katsushika Hokusai (1760–1849) Woman of Ôhara with Firewood Bundle and Kite
13 Ôishi Matora (Japanese, 1792–1833) 田字楼所蔵摸写於夕霧之古画真虎 An Old Painting of the Courtesan Yugiri in the Tajiro Collection, Copied by Matora
14 Katsushika Hokusai (1760–1849)
15 After: Kubo Shunman (Japanese, 1757–1820), Falsely attributed to Ryuryukyo Shinsai (fl. 1799-1823) Woman and Children Gathering Abalone into a Basket

Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Guy Wed, Nov 06, 2019

These surimono of the Group C type are facsimile copies of Edo period originals, issued during Taisho period. They were made for foreigners and originally sold in wrappers, containing to 50 prints. The date on the storage box is Taisho 15 or 1926; the prints must have been new when pasted to the scroll and presented as a gift.

For further reading on surimono copies:
Roger Keyes, The Art of Surimono, vol. II, Sotheby, 1985, Appendix, p.509-520.

Guy.


Subject:Re: Scroll Identification/Information
Posted By: Mary Wed, Nov 06, 2019

Wow, thank you so much for the information! It's quite nice to know what the images depict and who the artists are. I very much appreciate your help.

The inside of the box mentions a "Yawata City," but when I tried to look it up, the city that I found was supposedly established in 1977... so I don't think it's the same city mentioned on the scroll box. Do you (or anyone else) have some insight to this "Yawata City"?

Thanks,
Mary


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