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Subject:Mark Identification
Posted By: Shea Mon, Jul 15, 2019 IP: 50.203.72.74

Hello forum members,
I have a question about a mark that is on an item up for auction. The item is listed as a 19th C Qing Dynasty plate. Is the mark consistent with that listing?



Subject:Re: Mark Identification
Posted By: Larry Mon, Jul 15, 2019

I'd say this is an accurate description.

The plate looks like a typical Canton area kiln winter green export ware piece imported to N. America in large quantities in the mid to late 19th and early 20th century.

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Subject:Re: Mark Identification
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Jul 15, 2019

Might I suggest you provide a link to the auction so that everyone will have a fighting chance to answer your question correctly?

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Mark Identification
Posted By: Shea Tue, Jul 16, 2019

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264393986697

Sorry about that Bill. Here is the url.
Thanks for the information Larry.

Subject:Re: Mark Identification
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Jul 16, 2019

The border motif on this plate has elements of designs dated to the 2nd quarter of the 19th century, as shown in a 1982 catalog by Dr. John Quentin Feller for "The Canton Famille Rose Porcelains from the Alma Cleveland Porter Collection in the Peabody Museum of Salem". The plate combines elements of earlier Mandarin-style "Auspicious Figures" and later "Rose Medallion" porcelains. The base-mark, shown upside down, stylistically resembles factory markings used from at least the Jiaqing period (1796-1820), but in this case, while unreadable as a reign mark, probably is from the late Daoguang to Xianfeng reign (circa 1850).

The wear seen on the plate is typical of famille rose patterns painted on celadon porcelains during this period, as these enamels were quite difficult to fire uniformly because of the high temperatures required to vitrify them to the exceedingly hard iron-based celadon glaze.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Mark Identification
Posted By: Shea Wed, Jul 17, 2019

Thanks Bill for more information! I really appreciate the book references. It helps when I'm looking for resources to help build my knowledge..


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