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Subject:Chinese Vase
Posted By: David Sat, Aug 24, 2013 IP: 24.144.185.101

Please help identify origin, authenticity and anything else you can add. I was informed the markings below read from right to left. Qianlong Qing Dynasty and was purchased in an Estate sale about 30 years ago in Wellington, OH. Thanks.







Subject:Re: Chinese Vase
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Aug 25, 2013

Looks to be a circa mid-20th century or slightly later Chinese product, transfer-decorated with possibly some hand-coloring. The base-mark, also applied either by transfer or stamp, reads down and across from the top right in two stacks as: "Qianlong Nian Zhi (乾隆年製), Made during the Qianlong Reign". Transfer decoration and stamped-on reign marks are technologies that went unused in this manner by China during the 18th century.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Chinese Vase
Posted By: David Mon, Aug 26, 2013

I've taken the piece to a few collectors around the area and this is what I know about the vase thus far:

- Purchased at an estate sale 30 years ago in Wellington, OH.
- Measures 16" tall
- Iron-red hand-signed 4 character mark
- Mark reads from right to left Qianlong Qing Dynasty
- Looks to have an under glaze.
- Design is very ornate
- Hand drawn and painted
- 5 colors used including what looks like 24k gold
- Lotus Butterfly motif
- Signs of age/some of the paint has worn off
- Rough foot-rim

I know its probably hard to see in photos, but the mark is hand signed and the vase is most certainly hand drawn and painted. What would actually have to be there to make it authentic? Thanks so much for your time!

Subject:Re: Chinese Vase
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Aug 27, 2013

I've downloaded Three groups of pictures and a link for your information. The link is to the list of Qianlong period reign marks posted on a prominent internet antique gallery specializing in high quality Chinese porcelain. Study the marks and you'll note that the only four-character mark besides those in seal-script characters (zhuanshu) is in overglaze blue clerical script, and all of the six-character standard-script marks are in underglaze blue within double circles. There are none shown in four-character overglaze red standard-script characters (kaishu), although some Palace Museum catalogs record some in clerical script, but they inevitably are within square borders.

The first group of pictures is of a 19th century Guangxu-period famille rose jar with a handpainted mille fleurs motif on black ground. The base has a handwritten Qianlong six-character standard-script mark. Notice how clearly it is written, whereas the mark on the base of yours was applied unevenly from the start, due to lopsided pressure on the stamp. This may have caused some burn-off of iron pigment in the kiln, and subsequent uneven wear, so that some strokes can hardly be seen. Further, the mark is small for the size of the vase, an error that would have been unlikely in the 18th century, when the use of reign marks by private kilns was tightly controlled by the palace.

The second group of pictures is of a Guangxu mark & period bowl. This group and the other should help you see the difference between hand-enameled and richly textured decoration as compared to the unevenly applied, thinly colored transfer wares. The difference should be even more apparent between your vase and the third group of pictures, which is a piece of imperial porcelain made for a hall at the Summer Palace.

Best regards,

Bill H.








URL Title :TeadustReignMarks


Subject:Re: Chinese Vase
Posted By: Bill H Wed, Aug 28, 2013

Here's a better picture of the 19th century version of a Qianlong mark.
Bill H.



Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl/Cup
Posted By: Lena Sun, Oct 21, 2018

Hello,

My name is lena. Please look at my small cup to see if it is of any value. Thank you







Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl/Cup
Posted By: Martin Michels Wed, Oct 24, 2018

This kind of Qianlong mark is one of the most seen marks on all kind of Chinese ware in the 2nd half of the 20th century till even now. So no, it's not real old.
Looking at the bad quality of painting, this is another indication that it's not old and that means also it's not valuable.
Regards,
Martin.

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