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Subject:Qianlong Vase: fake or real?
Posted By: Morten Bech Jensen Mon, Feb 19, 2018 IP: 77.241.137.127

I have obtained this vase. It seems to me, to be a copy of an original Qianlong Vase, regarding design, placement of dragons etc. (see URL) however, the colors a not as blue, and the dragons on my vase seem somewhat dumbfounded. However, I have not been able to find a replica qianlong vase, matching mine either. What do the experts of the forum think?
Pictures of my vase is embedded belov





Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase: fake or real?
Posted By: David Fri, Feb 23, 2018

Hello Morten
Thanks for your interesting post. For me its not a question of"fake or real". From my point of view it looks as though this is mid twentieth century judging by the patina and general feel/look of the print. It's Chinese and real but not Qianlong and I think you will find the mark somewhere on the "recent marks" section of Gothenborg. I wouldn't normally have said anything but nobody has answered you and you need some sort of an answer. Even if it's a crock of shit.... Best wishes D

Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase: fake or real?
Posted By: Morten Sun, Feb 25, 2018

Dear David.

Thank you very much for your kind reply. It is very much appreciated.

I can see that I should perhaps have put more consideration into the words I have used, as I agree with your point, that it is not a question of 'real/fake' but more like a ''replica' aiming to imitate former times design etc.

I have tried to locate other replicas similar to the one I have now, albeit with no luck so far.

I once again thank you for your kind reply.

Best,

Morten

Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase: fake or real?
Posted By: Corey Wed, Feb 28, 2018

A bit late reply to the thread.

Unfortunately I think your vase is more likely modern. The decoration seems rather "mechanical". Like it's applied withe the use of a stencil, or made with transfer decoration. Decoration also looks somewhat similar to this modern vase:

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Chinese-H56cm-Ceramic-Big-Blue-White_60305541479.html

If it's earlier 20th century it might be valuable. Shape is similar to a vase dated to the 20th century at Bruun Rasmussen, estimated at DKK 25,000-30,000 / € 3,350-4,000 (lot 199):

http://www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/dam/catalogues/857/857_orient.pdf

That one however might actually be an unidentified mark and period example. Comparable vase has been sold as Qianlong period vases at various auctions, for example this one at Sotheby's:

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2013/chinese-works-of-art-n08974/lot.164.html

(But that's just me... I see unidentified mark and period pieces all over - it's almost patological.)

But your name sound quite Danish, so I'd suggest you bring it there or send them pictures, if this is your location.

Greetings from Copenhagen.




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