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Subject:Massive Vase, Late Ming, or Qing?
Posted By: casper Wed, Jun 28, 2017 IP: 95.148.126.131 Hi ! |
Subject:Re: Massive Vase, Late Ming, or Qing?
Posted By: Robert Thu, Jun 29, 2017 Look like a modern imitation of a late Yuan dynasty blue and white jar. |
Subject:Re: Massive Vase, Late Ming, or Qing?
Posted By: Casper Thu, Jun 29, 2017 Hello Robert. Could you please tell why you think thats the imitation? What was the reason? Any specific part of vase or colours? I would like to know for future. |
Subject:Re: Massive Vase, Late Ming, or Qing?
Posted By: Bokaba Fri, Jun 30, 2017 From what I've heard, no authentic Yuan pieces have swirled bases. It also looks like the rust spots are artificially applied. An authentic Yuan piece of this size and quality would potentially be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. |
Subject:Re: Massive Vase, Late Ming, or Qing?
Posted By: casper Sat, Jul 01, 2017 So the study of this piece, led me to this short youtube clip, please look at the second cracks vase on the presentation, it has the same ornaments, which the author of the clip describing as a "sea horses." According to this, such painting are very rare. Please look at this and try to compare techniques of those two. |
Subject:Re: Massive Vase, Late Ming, or Qing?
Posted By: Corey Sun, Jul 02, 2017 A quick search with google images revealed two examples of jars from the Yuan dynasty and one from the Hongwu period with swirled bases: |
Subject:Re: Massive Vase, Late Ming, or Qing?
Posted By: casper Sun, Jul 02, 2017 The vase comes from house clearance, so far only one owner for the last years. Unfortunately I don't know anything else about its past. |
Subject:Odd knees on the horses
Posted By: beadiste Sun, Jul 02, 2017 Did anyone else notice that the artist evidently thought that horses' front knees are drawn the same as the hocks on the back legs? |
Subject:Re: Odd knees on the horses
Posted By: Corey Tue, Jul 11, 2017 Yes, I noticed that too, but I didn't know what to make out of it. It might have some strange symbolic meaning, or just be a simple mistake by the drawer. I would like to add some more pictures and links to this thread, but I'll have to wait until later, because I feel a little stressed an unfocused in the hot summer weather here. I hope this thread won't go totally dead, because It's an interesting vase, original or not ... |
Subject:Re: Odd knees on the horses
Posted By: casper Wed, Jul 12, 2017 Hi Corey! |
Subject:Auction of "fakes" at Eden Galleries Atlanta
Posted By: TD Sat, Jul 15, 2017 This information was posted by Peter Combs on his site bidamount.com. There's a similar Yuan style blue and white vase up for bids on July 15-16 at Eden Galleries Atlanta. |
Subject:Re: Auction of "fakes" at Eden Galleries Atlanta
Posted By: Corey Mon, Jul 17, 2017 Well - the least I can do is to add the links to the site TD mentions. The bidamount.com site with the sale Peter Combs talks about: |
Subject:Re: Auction of "fakes" at Eden Galleries Atlanta
Posted By: Corey Mon, Jul 31, 2017 Just correcting the link in case casper or TD should ever wish to reply: |
Subject:Re: Auction of "fakes" at Eden Galleries Atlanta
Posted By: Corey Tue, Aug 15, 2017 Just adding a link with an example of a antique yuan style blue and white jar at auction. Lot #31: |
Subject:Re: Auction of "fakes" at Eden Galleries Atlanta
Posted By: Corey Thu, Oct 26, 2017 Another example of a Yuan dynasty blue and white porcelain meiping offered at auction with a low estimate (lot no. 1667): |
Subject:Re: Auction of "fakes" at Eden Galleries Atlanta
Posted By: Corey Fri, Oct 27, 2017 There were some killer pieces available with very low pre-sale estimates in that sale by the way. For example this Song dynasty foliate guan washer(lot no. 1673): |
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