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Subject:Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Mon, Jan 23, 2017 IP: 2601:0243:0002:2177: Told this was by Dingzhi or Gu An. Does a reproduction have any value. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Tue, Jan 24, 2017 Dingzhi, as this picture is signed, is a pen name that Gu An used: they are the same guy. Reproductions have little commercial value unless they are paintings that no longer exist or are not published. I don't see this painting pop up online though, so that may be a good sign. Cahill's Index may list it though. Can you show a close up of the inscriptions? |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Wed, Jan 25, 2017 Thanks for the help. I haven't spotted this picture either. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Wed, Jan 25, 2017 Thanks for the help. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Thu, Jan 26, 2017 I'm still missing 1 character, could you post a full picture for more context, or a sharper picture? |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Fri, Jan 27, 2017 Nicely done, what are you missing? the last bit of the artist's seal reading 定之? I'm wondering about that too. The Zhang Heng seal confirms that this is the Cincinnati Museum's picture, I hadn't looked at these yet. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Fri, Jan 27, 2017 Ah, got it: I think you have misread the initial seal 譚 as 諄, which when paired with 敬 reads Tan Jing (1911-1991), who aside from his fame for forgeries was pals with Zheng Zhenduo, who is credited as author of Zhang Heng's catalog, in which this picture appears. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Sun, Jan 29, 2017 Somewhat confused. So are you saying I have a nice reproduction by a famous forger? |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Mon, Jan 30, 2017 Sorry to create confusion, but no, you have a reproduction of a good quality painting by Gu An in the Cincinnati Museum of Art. It was previously owned by the Shanghai collector Zhang Heng, but Tan Jing's seals on it suggest that Tan acquired it from Zhang before it went to the Cincinnati Museum. (The Chinese catalog is a catalog of Zhang's collection; the German catalog seems to be of items from US museums, so presumably it was in the Cincinnati collection before being shown in Germany in 1959.) Tan would not have put his seals on a forgery he was responsible for. (One example of the forgeries he oversaw production of is another picture in the Cincinnati Museum of Art that is a tracing copy of "Twin Pines, Level Distance" a painting by Zhao Mengfu in the Metropolitan Museum.) |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Tue, Jan 31, 2017 Once again I owe you much thanks. Your helpfulness has gone far beyond anything I would hope to expect. You have shared your knowledge and that gift is most appreciated. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Thu, Feb 02, 2017 My pleasure, enjoy the picture! |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Fri, Feb 03, 2017 Hate to be that person. But I have to ask. Is there any monetary value. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Tue, Feb 07, 2017 to me and perhaps to those interested in traditional Chinese painting there would be value in this picture simply because this image is not readily available from any other source and yours seems to be a high quality reproduction, but it remains a reproduction, so perhaps several hundred dollars |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Wed, Feb 08, 2017 Thank you |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Thu, Jan 26, 2017 By process of elimination I think I have found it in Cahill's index, as I can account for or rule out all other works by Gu that he accepts but one, which I expect is yours: a "Single stem of bamboo. Signed. Two inscriptions." It is in the collection of the Cincinnati Museum of Art, but they have not made their collection available to search online. He notes that it was published in two sources: "1000 Jahre Chinesische Malerei", Exhibition at Haus der Kunst, Munich, 1959 (you can find copies online); and in the collection of Chang Heng 张珩 (Ts'ung-yu 縂玉): 韞辉齋藏唐宋以来名画集, Shanghai 1948. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Fri, Jan 27, 2017 Thanks so much for all your effort. You've gone above and beyond anyone would expect. |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: rat Sun, Jan 29, 2017 my pleasure, great to see some good quality art here! |
Subject:Re: Chinese artwork. Bamboo.
Posted By: Steve Fri, Jan 27, 2017 rat |
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