Asianart.com | Associations | Articles | Exhibitions | Galleries


Visitors' Forum

Asian Art  Forums - Detail List
Asian Art Forums

Message Listing by Date:
Message Index | Back | Post a New Message | Search | Private Mail | FAQ
Subject:Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Sat, May 28, 2011 IP: 24.233.180.172

Oh, what a beautiful rare bowl...This bowl sold for 9100usd on ebay.

Please see auction by clicking the link below...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170645057763&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Bill H. Sat, May 28, 2011

Is it my imagination or does this poor kid have a left hand growing out of his right wrist? I think they used to banish porcelain painters to somewhere way beyond the Kunlun Mountains for such mistakes in the 18th century. Maybe that's why this bowl is so rare and expensive. Only one that painter ever did.

Tsk, tsk,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Gary Mon, May 30, 2011

Fake!

Bit obvious really!

This bowl is typical of the high quality 'fake' 18th Century Chinese porcelain coming out of China today!

Bowls like these are popping up in some provincial rooms in the UK, I wonder how they are getting passed the auction rooms 'expert's' eye or is money so much more important these days that it simply doesn't matter anymore?


Gary.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: peter Sun, May 29, 2011

I wonder how they got past the minimum requirement Ebay has before someone can sell?
And, the mark looks pretty neat, like a printer font...

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: PyroManiac Sun, May 29, 2011

Er, no. This is a case of buyer having more money then sense.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: LEE Sun, May 29, 2011

Not even a 1900 qianlong replica this one is modern. The color and gilt is all wrong. Probably year 2000 -2008 replica.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Mon, May 30, 2011

You wrote~And, the mark looks pretty neat, like a printer font.

The mark is not a printer font. Take a close look at picture two under the listing. I believe the mark was neatly accomplished by hand.

I spoke with an Asian Collector about the bowl. He claimed that it's an authentic Qianlong and that he was very sorry not to attend the auction and win the item. I was trying to buy the item at the last moment also but my bid was sent too late before the auction was over.

I don't think it's fair to post only one picture to stretch out criticism in the option to vandalize the piece. Earlier, I was reading in this forum where many believe that the known precious vase of Qianlong that was sold at Bainbridge's auction for 43 million pounds to 51.6 million pounds after buyer premium IS FAKE!

Just wanted to share the auction in the forum. Take care!!!!

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, May 31, 2011

Please click the link and see about the Qianlong vase that was sold for 43 millions pounds. It is not fake as many in here claimed it to be. Each Chinese collector needs to educate themselves. It's not always good to get advice from others The competition is very intense.

http://www.channel4.com/news/chinese-vase-sells-for-record-43m

Ebay does have real authentic chinese porcelains and this bowl is one of them!

By the way, can you provide a picture of one from UK that has a similar made and decoration as this bowl? I have not seen another not on ebay or online. The colors used to decorate the bowl are exceptional and incomparable to morden replica colors.

All bidders who had bid on the item are all fools because they all failed to recognize that the piece is modern from UK. The bid started at 9.99usd and went up to almost 10,000usd and over 40 bidders. Frankly, I regret the bowl.

However, I do respect all opinions.


Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, May 31, 2011

Below are the links taken from your own forum discussions concerning the Qianlong vase that sold for 43 millions pounds. The vase is not fake and many in here claim it's fake. Only one exist of this vase model just as the bowl that you claimed it's a mass production of modern replica. Please show me another similar to the bowl! It's the same repetition as you did on the vase and on many item in here.

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=49026

Subject:Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made FakeIFive Flaws!
Posted By: GUANGHUI PEI Sun, Dec 19, 2010 IP: 120.42.253.135

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=48972

Subject:Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake?
Posted By: fozhilin Fri, Dec 17, 2010 IP: 218.66.195.157

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Anthony J Allen Tue, May 31, 2011

Hi Pati,
I didn't bother to venture an opinion on this piece as other contributors had already posted similar opinions to my own.
It is so obviously not Qianlong mark and period I am surprised it received any bids at all. But these mainland Chinese buyers are almost invariably book educated, and one cannot learn enough about the subject by viewing photos (some of dubious provenance) alone.
Regards
Tony

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, May 31, 2011

I contacted the seller on ebay. He said the bowl was in a Canadian estate for many, many years. And, he had the bowl inspected by 6 collectors from China and they all agreed that the bowl is from the period of Qianlong. Again, I will not believe that 42 bids were placed for this bowl on ebay and all the bidders were idiots and one could not recognize that the bowl is modern. The seller claimed he had a lot of watchers under his ebay. I'm going to send him a link concerning this post because I feel very bad that I posted the auction in this forum and now his piece is being vandalize.

However, thanks for your reply!

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: PyroManiac Thu, Jun 02, 2011

This is sounding a lot like the infamous Xuande porcelain bowl posted a few months back... with all the many experts that have seen the bowl. Did you know that many of these small professional art experts and services places that authenticate precious antiques get their commission from a positive authentication? It is in their interest to give a positive authentication. I dunno how many times I have experts insists that a marked item is authentic because the marks says so. Thus it must be real.

The antique world is a hard place to live. It consists of knowledgeable people in their field of expertise. It also consist of people who think they know a lot more then they do. Sometimes these people "rent" their services to others that know even less because the rent for their services are cheaper than those that truly experts in their field. And get screwed.

There is a huge difference in the value of authentications done by Sothebys or Christies compared to authentications done by Ding & Dong Expert Appraisals an all thing Artful. Like I have said many times before, you don't believe me, send the bowl for a proper authentication by a long established auction house with experience in the field of Chinese porcelain.

I bet you if that same bowl had no Qianlong mark, the price would be a fraction of the final bid price. This is a case of buyers having tunnel vision and zeroing in mostly because of the mark.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: phil Fri, Jun 03, 2011

Dear Pati,
there were 42 bids but not 42 bidders, only 4 or 5 bidders all with low feedback which is a possible indication of shill bidding.
The bowl is undoubtably a fake & even the seller is uncertain, (or covering themselves in the event of a SNAD claim)

Although there are contributers to this board with varying degrees of expertise both Tony & Pyro, as well as Bill have a lot of experience & their opinions should not be taken lightly.

You`re right that it is possible to buy genuine antique porcelain on ebay, (you can always buy from me if you want to be sure of authenticity, that`s a shameless plug!) but I really, really doubt, in fact I`m certain that this bowl is not one of them.

All the best,
Phil.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 03, 2011

All 6 bidders are idiots. In my opinion, This forum is mostly about propaganda simply to vandalize many good pieces and also to discourage collectors from buying through ebay.

The seller is new and only sale one item so for on ebay which is a 'Russian plate.' He is not a regular seller that sold Chinese porcelains. This indicates that he knows about antique including Chinese antique.

Since the market has been so hot over Chinese porcelains there are many experts that are rising to mislead. However, I'm not accusing anyone but I still desire to have an answer concerning the 43 million pounds vase that this forum claimed it's also fake by giving a whole pile of assumptions or conjectures. Why would I believe your conjectures about the bowl if you claimed the Qianlong vase that was sold for 43 million pounds is fake? One member in this forum even blamed the auction on mainland uneducated Chinese for the bids that the bowl had received on ebay. To me it's just propaganda base on assumption to destroy a good piece. As a an art collector, I also encounter the same thing when dealing with paintings especially 19 century paintings art.

I'm not saying that seller would not chill bidding on their own items but we can not assume and run with it like it could possibly be a fact.

By the way, Is this one on ebay a chill bidding?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=110692074216&si=maZRWn1wZ8dFEpuGMxy6YCUNFtc%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 03, 2011

All 6 bidders are idiots. In my opinion, This forum is mostly about propaganda simply to vandalize many good pieces and also to discourage collectors from buying through ebay.

The seller is new and only sale one item so for on ebay which is a 'Russian plate.' He is not a regular seller that sold Chinese porcelains. This indicates that he knows about antique including Chinese antique.

Since the market has been so hot over Chinese porcelains there are many experts that are rising to mislead. However, I'm not accusing anyone but I still desire to have an answer concerning the 43 million pounds vase that this forum claimed it's also fake by giving a whole pile of assumptions or conjectures. Why would I believe your conjectures about the bowl if you claimed the Qianlong vase that was sold for 43 million pounds is fake? One member in this forum even blamed the auction on mainland uneducated Chinese for the bids that the bowl had received on ebay. To me it's just propaganda base on assumption to destroy a good piece. As a an art collector, I also encounter the same thing when dealing with paintings especially 19 century paintings art.

I'm not saying that seller would not chill bidding on their own items but we can not assume and run with it like it could possibly be a fact.

By the way, Is this one on ebay a chill bidding?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=110692074216&si=maZRWn1wZ8dFEpuGMxy6YCUNFtc%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Bill H. Fri, Jun 03, 2011

Whether it is shill bidding or just unskilled bidding might be the better question. This seller guarantees the vase to be Qianlong-era, but the documented fact is that this form of 'shoulder neck bottle vase' (pinyin: yu tang chun ping - see characters below), did not appear until the Guangxu reign (1875-1908). What's wrong with this picture!?

If this is vandalism, then let me wear the term scarified into my forehead as a badge of honor.

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Sat, Jun 04, 2011

Pati hon, is common act to criticize messengers when not like message.

You like painting? Think of Vermeer. His fine brush strokes and handling-light pigments produced luminous, riveting works. Hundreds years later, painters Barbizon School also tried handling light but the two styles could not be confused. Late pointillistes tried another approach to deconstructing light; again could not mistake for Vermeer. Imagine Seurat trying copy a Vermeer portrait and interior.

Is same with painting styles Chinese ceramics. Bowl you point to tried copy something else, maybe decorator see picture of bowl or vase - but not understand picture elements and not have right enamels for exact copy (in same way painters' pigment chemistry different over time). Others point to tell-the-tale details. I noticed one boy balancing top half of halberd (the rest missing) on one hand, a silly interpretation by bowl painter.

The work tells its own story. Even if Vermeer never signed his work we would know the hand and eye of one marvelous artist.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Prabhu Kafle Thu, Jun 30, 2011

hey, this is me!! the stupid guy who was arguing about the bowl and yup you guys are right and i learned so much from you guys and handling and looking things and buying and selling them that, am so careful nowadays and really has given me a thought that am a novice and just a learner. But please check out my other things I have posted and tell me what it is?

I bought a thangka... it's listed in the forum and the subject is 13TH CENTURY THANGKA. i took the pictures to the Bonhams auction in sydney and the expert told me it look promising and that she just need to see the details of the eye and the border. what do you think. please, let me know. cheers.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Fri, Jun 03, 2011

"I will not believe that 42 bids were placed for this bowl on ebay and all the bidders were idiots and one could not recognize that the bowl is modern."

There were only a few bidders. In many cases at least one bidder is associate of vendor who may or may not tell truth about whether actually sold.

Are many good stories, the qualities of the piece usually tell the true tale.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Pati Hon Sat, Jun 04, 2011

"Pati hon, is common act to criticize messengers when not like message."
I have nothing personal concerning your replies. My problem is too many speculations or conjectures and I see that in almost all the posts that are posted in here. Yet, no one has provided any answer concerning the 43 million pounds vase that the experts in here claimed it is fake.

Tough, I'm not a connoisseur but do not treat me as an imbecile!This Vermeer analogy is pertaining to the same source of speculation concerning the bowl in order to help bringing legs to your conjectures while the truth is still remain evident for the sake of competition. I would like to accept all your examinations about this bowl but I dislike speculations since no one in here is willing to answer my question about the 43 million dollars vase that this forum claimed it's fake. In my opinion, almost everything else in here is fake without any proper examination.

Upon the pink coat of the young boy one can see burst bubbles and the pink does not reflect the latter enamels that are more clear, more thin in application and contain no lead or graining. One can even see gold speck in the pink enamel one character that the later Qing (19th century), the republic and the modern replica does not have.

The gold applied on the upper rim of the bowl is coming out in some areas due to old age. Someone in here under this post says the bowl is of the 2008-2010 completely modern from mainland China replica.

How do you explain the color of the footrim and Imperial footrims are often filed flat before kiln firing to keep the item from rocking back and forth after firing then they brush over the rim. Solid painted lines of a mark. When seen during daylight hours they will appear one color and as night falls will gradually change color and appear a totally different color hue from very slight impurities within the clear glaze (E. Guides). In the photos provide by the seller we can see the color hue change under different light a feature that newer porcelain does not have.

Imperial workshop porcelain is made of the best clay and glazes. The painting on Imperial porcelain can be so perfect it looks like a modern decal (E. Guides). In this case, I can agree with the person in here that claims the bowl is a well-made modern replica of the 18th century since the painting on Imperial porcelain can be so perfect it looks like modern. Please examine the depth to the color and glaze in all the pictures. Imperial porcelain is glassy not chalky. Thicker lines appear more blurry especially rather than clean crisp lines that we see in newer pieces. Any antique should have small use scratches from being used or handled and the gold applied on the upper rim has scratches.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Gary Sat, Jun 04, 2011

Sorry Patti

I think it's becoming a case of...

The Lady Doth Protest too Much!

Gary.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Pati hon Sun, Jun 05, 2011

Now Shakespeare's Quote is used instead of answering my question about the 43 million pounds vase. Why is this vase fake and also the bowl?

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Sun, Jun 05, 2011

Pati, just so future reader not think what you say is genuine, what you said about cut foot, coat foot after firing, gold rim wrong. Also wrong about no lead in enamels. Also any piece can have small damage added to simulate age - often not in natural looking manner. Have seen reproduction works in ceramics and glass were sand-blasted to simulate age pitting, holes drilled in furniture to imitate wormholes, and more.

You will believe as you wish.

Cal

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Sun, Jun 05, 2011

In the middle is a porcelain reproduction image in comparison to two images of the bowl. I've been asking for another example of the same decoration and as perfect as this in order to justify what one of you had said about the bowl. He/she said that the decoration is modern and that he saw similar decoration from UK. Frankly, I search and search again and I have not seen one similar to this bowl decoration or its glaze and enamels. Please show me one and answer my question about the 43 million pounds vase. With all do respect!







Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Tue, Jun 07, 2011

The bowl label 'reproduction' is not reproduce or imitate anything old. Is just modern piece not pretend to be anything else.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Sun, Jun 05, 2011

Here is another example for this person who claimed that the bowl is 2008-2010 modern. The reproduction bears a Qianlong mark underglaze blue. The repro is noted in red and the other one is the bowl.

Imperial workshop porcelain is made of the best clay and glazes. The painting on Imperial porcelain can be so perfect it looks like a modern decal, except there is depth to the color and glaze on the antique ones (E.Guides). It is obvious the difference. The leaves in the bowl appear to be high relief not as flat and without depth like the repro. The paints on the repro is watery and very flashy to the eyes. The drawing are so thick and black and crispy in the repro. Totally not the same even a child can see the difference in the depth. Please show me one in comparison to the bowl that is modern and fake!



Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: LEE Tue, Jun 07, 2011

Hi Pati, your bowl is fake. There are many points why it is fake. From the way the mark is drawn to the style and color used in the painting. However lets not argue about it. Why not send pics of it to Christies, Bonhams, Sothebys or Bainbridge auction that sold that revolving vase. Let them be the judge.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Sun, Jun 05, 2011


pati,

i think your correct about the bowl not modern,
it does not look like the colors on my modern vase.

dennis



Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011

I most correct this...It's 2000-2008 not 2008-2010

Dennis,

Finally, someone agreed with me. It's impossible for the bowl to be classified as modern or a republic piece. The seller told me bowl has seams around the green leaves which also signifies to him old age. I wish that I can see closer pictures of the bowl definition. The bowl has a western style.

Thank you so much for all answers!

Pat

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011

Hello Lee,
You wrote the following... "your bowl is fake. There are many points why it is fake. From the way the mark is drawn to the style and color used in the painting. However lets not argue about it. Why not send pics of it to Christies, Bonhams, Sothebys or Bainbridge auction that sold that revolving vase. Let them be the judge."

For your information, the bowl does not belong to me. I discovered it on ebay and I wanted to purchase it. However, another buyer got it.

The bowl is fake just as the 43 million pounds vase is fake.

I will try to contact the seller on ebay and ask if he has better images of the bowl.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Tue, Jun 07, 2011

pati hon,

my vase is from 2012-2020.

dennis

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011

@ Lee...From the way the mark is drawn

Here a few examples of Qianlong iron seal marks taken from auction houses in comparison to letter (F) which is the mark of the bowl taken from ebay.



Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Tue, Jun 07, 2011

pati,


i like the modern qianlong seal mark on my vase better, it's a prototype qianlong seal mark.

dennis



Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011

@ Dennis~my vase is from 2012-2020.

My vase is younger than that so be in good courage...C'est la vie!

See image below!

By the way, no one gives an answer to my question concerning the Qianlong vase that sold for 43 million pounds and people in here claim it's fake. Nonetheless, I rest my case!



Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Wed, Jun 08, 2011

pati,

not bad, and better than most.

dennis

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Thu, Jun 09, 2011

@Dennis
However,I understand your statement clearly concerning the vase and I reach to a conclusion based on your support to send photos of the red vase to a major auction house for an estimate (you bever know). Thank you again for your input! You have really help me!
By the way, send pictures of your vase too and let me know!

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Thu, Jun 09, 2011

pati,

no need to send photos to a auction house, they are not experts in chinese arts. they don't say who or/and will give the estimate. chinese arts
are just recently being sold at auctions, and majority of people who try to collect chinese arts don't know which 'ones' are the prize items. if you
or someone you know that happen to be in china, around 1920-1948. that is good at playing mah-jong, and have unlimited supply of opium as payment. and since many of the players had very little money. players, bring their antiques to use as payment. many fine chinese antiques were obtain this way.

dennis

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 10, 2011

@ Dennis~This time, I will not accept your advice. You just don't want me to make money. I will send the photos no matter what. Salut!

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Fri, Jun 10, 2011

pati,


i would advice you to start watching alot
of old kung fu movies. the ones with shaolin monks and chinese munchu's with pony tail hairs. not only you will learn some kung fu, there are
alot of chinese antiques that can be seen and learn in those kung fu movies. grasshoppers takes about a few years of watching, before they
become grandmaster like me.

grandmaster
scam/jamma

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 10, 2011

Grasshopper has rest its case! So long to the grandmaster! Mockery has prevailed!

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 10, 2011

@Dennis

Behold my friend!

You have too much knowledge for me...I would not dare to compete such a match.

Verily, I say unto you...I'm now rest my case and I take off my hat. The Best to you!

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Gary Mon, Jun 13, 2011

Oh Patti!!!

Seems we have a match???

Now there's a thing!

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-FINE-OLD-UNUSUAL-BOWL-QIANLONG-QING-DYNASTY-/180680001613?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D170645057763%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D622126123783853148

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Bill H. Tue, Jun 14, 2011

Thank you, Gary. I was beginning to think that old threads in a forum, like old wine from a cellar, go sour when open too long. This finding of yours freshens the bouquet around here immensely. :)

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Tue, Jun 14, 2011

Vendor changed ID again.
And omitted photo of boy 2 left hands.
One, er, 'bidder'.

Holding nose.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: toan Sat, Jul 23, 2011

Can someone alert PATI so that she will not miss the oprtunity of obtaining thi magnificent QIANLONG bowl that she so loved as it has resurfaced on Ebay

Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: PyroManiac Wed, Jun 15, 2011

Wait! I thought Pati said the bowl was not hers? Tsk! Buy a bowl for $9000 and sell for $900 = profit?

Subject:535 Chinese Porcelain Vase Iron Red Qianlong Mark
Posted By: michael Thu, Nov 07, 2019

can someone tell me what date this is from







Subject:Re: 535 Chinese Porcelain Vase Iron Red Qianlong Mark
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Nov 07, 2019

Appears to be an early 3rd quarter, 20th century transfer-decorated porcelain vase from China. At that time, most such wares came from Macao and Hong Kong. Similar apocryphal porcelain markings of "Made during the Qianlong Reign" (Qianlong Nian Zhi) from the same period are shown by the gotheborg.com website.

Best regards,

Bill H.


Asianart.com | Associations | Articles | Exhibitions | Galleries |