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Subject:HS Apollo
Posted By: Thu, Sep 24, 2009 IP: 219.142.237.82

Hi there!

Been considering making a purchase, but they are asking a pretty penny for this piece. I thought it would be a good idea to solicit comments and advise from the "hive-mind".

Thanks!







Subject:Re: not Hongshan, not Apollo
Posted By: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 IP: 172.162.38.172

No such thing as 'Apollo' traditional Chinese iconography.

Especially not thousand years before that deity invented in Mediterranean.

This new object probably 'worth' less than shipping cost. If you like its look, fine to pay whatever you wish for decoration, but is not ancient, antique or 'old' and does not depict anything in East Asian tradition.

Might be molded resin not stone carving.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 IP: 58.152.185.234

Fake! what kind of burial environment make jade look like that? Nuclear waste plant?

Dyed and acid treatment then polished smooth, finally applied with Vaseline petroleum jelly to shine luster.

There is a fake jade dealer on the net who bought a few bucks non-jade to sell 10 grands as "jade" as "authentic", he uses cheap table cloth like that for the background.

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Note from the factory:-

"It can be used as home decoration.
It really is very similar to the Antiquities.
It is also valuable as a gift to a friend."

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Hongshan jade is a myth, rare and impossible to find, the best you can fulfill your fantasy is buying nice copies in "truck load" from Alibaba.com and you may look at the sky then shout out loud "possible Hongshan Culture"!!!!

Have fun
Anita

Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 IP: 96.49.178.148

Pennies YES...Dollars...NO..it was made yesterday !!!!
Ernest


Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 IP: 219.142.231.234

I remembered seeing an HS figurine in a book somewhere in a similar style... thought maybe I hit the jack-pot!

As per Anita's message, I checked out alibaba.com. What an eye-opener! Had no idea there is so much demand to justify so many wholesaler's!

Thanks everyone. Sure glad I checked in with you guys!




Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Thu, Oct 01, 2009 IP: 194.30.180.21

Dear jmsht,

please see my reply on: http://www.chicochai.com/jadeforum/read.php?forum=1&id=35081

Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Thu, Oct 01, 2009 IP: 67.159.44.51

Hi,jmsht:

While it may be easy to tell or say what is not Hongshan, it will be quite difficult to say what really is Hongshan. It seems everybody has their own different opinions.

We can post an excavated authentic Hongshan jade piece here, half the people may call it fake while other half may believe it can be genuine.

Before you will invest any more money in any Hongshan jades, you better make sure you know what you are doing, it may be much better off to just acquire some nice Qing dynasty Hetian jade carvings.

Also, please see:

http://www.chicochai.com/jadeforum/read.php?forum=1&id=35081

Bill

Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Mon, Oct 05, 2009 IP: 58.152.162.97

Dear jmsht

If someone try to trade/sell/exchange his unwanted Hongshan jade fakes to your money or one of your jade collection or other stuffs, please beware and do not "trust" anyone.

Collecting antique Chinese jade is very very difficult with hard work on identifying real from millions of factory fakes. You must study hard, otherwise you will be a dead meat for a vulture on the net...take a deep breath, read books and go to museums first.

Hongshan jade does not exist!!!!..pls do not buy it.

Best Regards
Anita

Pls visit my forum, you will learn more.

http://www.translucentworld.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=102

http://www.translucentworld.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=189


Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Wed, Oct 07, 2009 IP: 192.55.208.10

"Hongshan jade does not exist!!!!.."

That is a very interesting statement, because if I recalled correctly the person who made this statement did post a "genuine" Hongshan jade carving owned by her here not too long ago and might have already sold it to another collector.

The problem is, there is absolutely no guarantee that any Hongshan jades you purchase, no matter how expensive they may be, or from any reputable dealers, can be proved 100% authentic.

B

Subject:Re: HS Apollo
Posted By: Tue, Oct 06, 2009 IP: 58.152.187.47

I hereby mean "someone around here".


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