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Subject:The endless supplies of rare treasures: Tianwang and Chicken blood stone carvings; Huanghuali and zitan brush pots
Posted By: kk Wed, Dec 31, 2008 IP: 76.203.124.44

In this past year, I have seen a lot of tianwang and chicken blood stone cravings, large Huanghuali and zitan brushes pots on the US market. Just a few years back, these are very rare finds! But now they show up in small auction houses, antique shops… They often sold for a few hundreds dollars, way below the market value from the major auction houses.

Just within the past two weeks, five people show me their great finds: large tianwang cravings. One guy said his large tianwang shanzhi he paid 1k for it worth 100+K........I suggested him to spend some of his profit on a few good books.



Happy New Year

Subject:Re: The endless supplies of rare treasures: Tianwang and Chicken blood stone carvings; Huanghuali and zitan brush pots
Posted By: kk Fri, Jan 02, 2009

Just to clarify, Tianwang should be Tianhuang in Chinese; Chicken blood stone is called Jixueshi in Chinese.

These are the common finds in today's market:

first pic is "fake tianhuang stone"
Last two are "fake chicken blood stone"

kk



















Subject:Re: The endless supplies of rare treasures: Tianwang and Chicken blood stone carvings; Huanghuali and zitan brush pots
Posted By: hallo Sat, Jan 03, 2009

Be extremely careful with chicken blood stone cravings. Real chicken blood stone are extremely rare, expensive to own and a pain to maintain.

The stuff on the market now are usually one of two types of fakes. One type is made by compression molding of iron and stone. Although these imitation stone have the same composition of chicken blood stone, they have a burgundy hue and lacks the luster of real blood red. Second more realistic looking fake involves the age old method of painting on red ink on stone then covering it with a layer of urethane to protect the paint and gives the stone a fine shine.

But the real stuff is also a pain keep pretty.
Real chicken blood stone don't age well... the red will tarnish into a brown as the iron impurity in the stone oxidizes in the presence of oxygen. Yes the stuff rusts.

I hope there is more education to collectors in the states so that they truly understand what they are buying.

Subject:Re: The endless supplies of rare treasures: Tianwang and Chicken blood stone carvings; Huanghuali and zitan brush pots
Posted By: feedus Sat, Jan 31, 2009

May I ask how should it be maintained?

A chicken blood stone recently came into my family's collection. But from what I've seen, it has already turned into a deep brown colour.

Will this diminish its value?

Thanks in advance!

Subject:Re: The endless supplies of rare treasures: Tianwang and Chicken blood stone carvings; Huanghuali and zitan brush pots
Posted By: Tim Tue, Feb 28, 2017

There's no iron in chicken blood stone, the red comes from cinnabar, which turns brown with age and sunlight. Iron is the element that provides the red in certain kinds of jasper.

http://www.gemselect.com/other-info/chickens-blood-stone.php


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