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Subject:Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Sun, Oct 18, 2020 IP: 2a02:8109:9f40:1d73:

Please, can anyone be so kind to help me translate the seal and tell me the meaning of the paintings?

Thanks in advance!







Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Oct 18, 2020

The iron red marking on the bottom probably is an apocryphal Republic-period mark of 'Made during the Qianlong Reign of the Great Qing Dynasty' (Da Qing Qianlong nian zhi- 大清乾隆年製). The well-painted vase itself also looks to come from the Republic period, due to its apparently guttered foot, though the cause of dating it would be furthered in this case by information on its provenance; i.e., what is the source of the vase, and how long can you account for its existence.

The figures seen riding the carp with attendants holding banners are presumably legendary figures or immortals and deities associated with Chinese literature, as is the carp. The usual suspects are exemplified by Kuixing 奎星, a star in the big dipper, who is the God of Examinations and said to be an associate of Literature God Wen Chang (文昌). KuiXing is shown riding a carp below with the Big Dipper Constellation in the sky.

Another immortal scholar revered by examinees is Zhong Kui (鍾馗), who otherwise is the Queller of Demons. Yet another immortal often depicted riding a carp is Qin Gao (琴高), a painter of fish, who is held in especially high regard in Japan as the Sennin Kinko. A picture of him in bronze is shown below. See the embedded link below for additional related details from an earlier post.

If your vase can be proven to be of the Republic period by a more experienced authority, such as a major auction house, the vase could bring a tidy sum when sold.

Best regards,

Bill H.






URL Title :Dragon Carp Lore


Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Mon, Oct 19, 2020

Dear Bill H.

Thank you for your reply and all the information you gave to me.
The vase belonged to an estate of a diplomat of the former GDR (German Democratic Republic).
I'll attache some more pictures.
On the "neck" of the vase there are some more people and also cranes. The person on the red carp seems to hunt the other person (?), because he throws a sword to him.

Once again - thank you so much for your help.

With regards, Vincent.







Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Mon, Oct 19, 2020

some more pictures...







Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Mon, Oct 19, 2020

some more pictures...







Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Mon, Oct 19, 2020

last ones:







Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Mon, Oct 19, 2020

"The iron red marking on the bottom probably is an apocryphal Republic-period mark of 'Made during the Qianlong Reign of the Great Qing Dynasty' (Da Qing Qianlong nian zhi- 大清乾隆年製)."

Please, can you explain this to me? Republic Period means, the vase was made between 1912-1949, right?
Sorry for my questions, but I'm a Novice.

Regards, Vincent

Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Oct 19, 2020

Yes, the Republic of China period was between 1912-49. It may be that the art on the vase depicts an episode from Chinese classical literature or legend, but if so, it's nothing I've read or heard of.

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Tue, Oct 20, 2020

Dear Bill H.

Thanks a lot! I think you're right and the meaning of the painting can be found in Chinese literature.

Kind regards, Vincent

Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Mark Adams Tue, Oct 20, 2020

A beautiful vase you have procured.
It's in my opinion highly probable republic period 1912-1949. Highly collectable. The cranes are egrets.
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Subject:Re: Vase with Paintings and Seal
Posted By: Vincent Tue, Oct 20, 2020

Dear Mark.

Also thank you for you help and yes - the cranes are egrets ;)

Kind regards, Vincent


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