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Subject:Chinese Export Grisaille Plate
Posted By: Peter Mon, May 18, 2020 IP:


Attached are a few pics of a plate I recently purchased together with a Famille Rose plate (mentioned in my previous posting).

Being a novice collector, I very nearly dismissed this plate out of hand, assuming that the grey border was merely transfer printed. As the plates were only a few Euros each, I decided to take them both.
If my Googling research is correct, this type of decoration is known as a 'Grisaille' - which I, for one, had never come across before in my sheltered life as a novice collector.
The plate measures approximately 9" in diameter. The base is unmarked - other than remnants of a glued tag. Two concentric circles of spur(?) marks can also be quite clearly seen on the underside from certain angles.

I'd be very grateful if any experts out there could supply any further info and if possible, a possible date of manufacture.

Many thanks in advance !


Subject:Re: Chinese Export Grisaille Plate
Posted By: JJ Tue, May 19, 2020

Hi Peter,

The plate is indeed Grisaille (from the French word Gris which means grey) The pictures are not very clear but the body and footrim looks like it could be Qianlong 1736 - 1795. Your famille rose plate is export ware and most likely from the same period. The 'spur' marks are most likely firing irregularities or the pooling of glaze.

Subject:Re: Chinese Export Grisaille Plate
Posted By: Peter Wed, May 20, 2020

Hello JJ,

Many thanks for taking the time to give your valued opinion - it is much appreciated.
I have attached another photo of the marks on the underside of the plate for your closer examination.

Best Regards,

Subject:Re: Chinese Export Grisaille Plate
Posted By: plasticman Tue, May 19, 2020

You have a great plate made in mid eighteenth century. The bandwerk border was much favored by the European trade market. Grisaille indicates gray enamels, but the color is more of black shades. The condition is wonderful and you have a treasure.

Subject:Re: Chinese Export Grisaille Plate
Posted By: Peter Wed, May 20, 2020

Hello Plasticman,

Many thanks indeed for the excellent news. These two items will now have pride of place in the vitrine. Thanks to you and your AsianArts colleagues can I now, after six months collecting, have a modest degree of confidence in identifying 'the good stuff', as it were!

I never cease to be amazed by the extremely high proportion of reproductions, fakes, or just plain tat advertised under the guise of 'antique'.

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