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Subject:Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: Giuseppe Mon, Apr 20, 2020 IP: 85.225.86.154

Can I have your opinion on this plate?
Is this a chinese famille rose or a Samson chinese style plate?
Thanks





Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: Larry Mon, Apr 20, 2020

how about a shot of the back

Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: plasticman Mon, Apr 20, 2020

What is the second photo a picture of? Do you have any views of the reverse of the plate in question?

Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Apr 20, 2020

When flipped 180 degrees, the picture of the mark appears possibly to read down as a name in English, 'E?arrat'. Not Chinese in any event.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: Giuseppe Mon, Apr 20, 2020

Thank you. I insert the complete photoof the back. The red rod is in the position where there is usually the mark. I don't know if it could be the name of some European importer.



Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: plasticman Tue, Apr 21, 2020

From the information available, I don't think the plate is Chinese. The unusual spearhead border and very white paste both reinforce that opinion.

Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: Adriano Tue, Apr 21, 2020

Your plate is a Chinese Famille Rose Qianlong period style, I think.
What is not convincing me is the shape of the back that it looks not typical of period.
In addition, the porcelain is too new and perfect: may be a more recent copy.
This is my personal opinion.

Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: Giuseppe Wed, Apr 22, 2020

Than kyou

Subject:Re: Famille rose plate. Cinese or Samson?
Posted By: Mark Adams Wed, Apr 22, 2020

This plate has a pseudo asian mark that means nothing. It's not Chinese imo but rather EU product. The gilt flower is wrong. As is the general floral design to be chinese.
I also think based on your pictures that it is a product of the 20th century. Please note what appears to be black outlines of the flowers etc.
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