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Subject:Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Selim Sat, Mar 28, 2020 IP: 94.235.4.100

This box was put up for sale at an auction online. And I bought this snuff bottle. I started to be interested in the art of the Asia. I ask you for information about this box and snuff bottle. Thank you so much.







Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Mar 29, 2020

The lotus scroll motif on your Chinese snuff bottle appears to be hand-painted, and the fragmentary 'jianding' or export seal has characteristics of those used by the various provincial cultural relics Bureaus during the late 20th century, following the founding of the People's Republic. My subjective experience leans toward a late Republic of China (1912-49) dating, because earlier snuff bottles I've handled tended to have a glazed bottom between the foot-rim, more often than not with an apocryphal reign mark, as in the example shown below with faux Jiaqing mark dated circa 1910.

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Selim Mon, Mar 30, 2020

Thank you very much for the information you provide. They were very useful.

Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Mark Adams Mon, Mar 30, 2020

This bottle has been modified/altered from a scent bottle to a snuff bottle. The raised outer tube with the lip/hole has been ground down.
I did ask a friend of mine who has been collecting Chinese snuff bottles for many a year about yours. He advised me that the unglazed base with the circular design is a known design dating to the late 19th century century and not known or used during the Republic period.
The quality of this bottle is in my opinion on the low side. That along with the modifications make this an average bottle.
Where is the box you referred to?
Mark

Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Selim Tue, Mar 31, 2020

Thank you very much, Mark. I think I failed to add the link to the box. Now I'm adding photos.







Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Mark Adams Tue, Mar 31, 2020

Correction.
The bottle was not ground down or converted into a snuff bottle. It was probably used as a snuff bottle that was previously used as a scent/other bottle. This apparently was commonly done etc.
Mark@imperial

Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Mar 31, 2020

Actually I did have a snuff bottle with concentric foot that was consigned to the back of a shelf, forgotten about because it has damage. In addition to the crack, its glaze appears to have been sanded, indicating it may be a shipwreck piece. The dragon style looks a bit like Guangxu-early Republic.

Bill H.



Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Giovanni Wed, Apr 01, 2020

Dear Bill,
I do collect b&w dragon snuff bottles.
Would you like to sell your bottle?
Thank you in advance.
Regards
Giovanni

Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Apr 03, 2020

Giovanni, thanks for the interest, but it isn't that I don't collect snuff bottles, just that they aren't my primary focus. However, I do collect almost anything I can afford in the way of Chinese porcelain with decent dragon decoration, including snuff bottles. Here are a couple of late 19th century bottles in better shape with later caps. I like the unmarked one better than the one with an apocryphal Yongzheng reign mark because the dragon is much better drawn with claws that conform to a more perfect circle.

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Bill H Sat, Apr 04, 2020

Giovanni,

I should have mentioned a little more clearly that I have nothing I wish to sell in the Asian Arts Forum, nor to I entertain solicitations to engage in commercial transactions based on information I submit in the forum in response to queries.

Thank you for your understanding,

Bill H.

Giovanni

Avrei dovuto menzionare un po' più chiaramente che non ho nulla che voglio vendere nell'Asian Arts Forum, né ami sollecitazioni a impegnarsi in transazioni commerciali basate sulle informazioni che invio nel forum in risposta alle domande.
Grazie per la vostra comprensione,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Selim Wed, Apr 01, 2020

I found two examples with a similar pattern and base. Although the pattern is similar, there is a difference in quality. Maybe mine is a later copy of this.







Subject:Re: Snuff bottle and box
Posted By: Selim Wed, Apr 01, 2020

Two similar examples I found








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