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Hi All,, can anyone please help identify these 2 plates, they are both about 12 inches diameter the marks on the bottom don't look the same too me? can anyone read them and possible tell there age,, they are quite heavy and look old too me,, also it looks like there is a impressed mark under the gold painted characters ??????

The right side of both marks reads: Satsuma 薩广 Kinkoku 錦谷, with the short version of "ma" 摩 in Satsuma.

Kinkoku might be a pottery studio.

The left part of the complete golden marking reads: Kumamoto 隈元 Sei 製 (made by Kumamoto).

The Kanji underneath the golden characters is in my opinion: Kotobuki 壽 (or Ju in Sino-Japanese reading) and a 2nd Kanji that is too vague for me to recognize.

It's strange that the marking in black is overwritten with the gold characters. I have no other explanation than that the blank plates had the black mark before being decorated.

Date: around 1900-1920.
Another Kumamoto mark is added to this post.
Regards,
Martin.

I read the two characters underneath the golden marking;
壽勝　-　Toshikatsu, Sumikatsu, Hisakatsu, Harukatsu Hisashō or Jushō

With regards,
I.Nagy

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