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Subject:Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: LEP Fri, Dec 20, 2019 IP: 2001:8a0:f0c5:d501:1

Hello, here's a porcelain plaque I'm looking to buy, trying to figure out the theme, if anyone can help translate, I would appreciate. Originated from Macao, I think!





Subject:Re: Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: I.Nagy Fri, Dec 20, 2019

江村月落正堪眠
只在芦花浅水辺
絵于珠山
The 2nd and 4th lines from Sikong Shu's poem titled "A Riverside Village Note" (江村即事 -
司空曙)- In my rough translation
( - )
The moon was already sinking on the riverside village and he just fell asleep
( - )
It's probably just flowing around the shallows
where the reed blooms

Picture in Zhushan

You can find a professional translation of the whole poem on the following site;
poetrychinese.blogspot.com/2008/08/sikong-shu-riverside-village-note.html

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: Bill H Sat, Dec 21, 2019

I believe that last line at left, 絵于珠山 (Hui yu zhu shan), also might be read as "Painted at Zhushan", which is a fancy way of saying "Painted at Jingdezhen", the historic porcelain kiln capital in Jiangxi Province, where Zhushan (Pearl Mountain) is a district.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: LEP Sat, Dec 21, 2019

Thank you kindly.

Subject:Re: Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: Mark Adams Sat, Dec 21, 2019

Out of interest are you able to post a picture of the back?
Also the seller is claiming what period/age of this plaque?
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Subject:Re: Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: LEP Sun, Dec 22, 2019

Hello there,
The auction house is pointing at the Republic period, which I guess seems legit, but I'll ask for a back photo.
If you have more insight about the style please share
Thanks!

Subject:Re: Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: Mark Adams Mon, Dec 23, 2019

Hi Lep,
A large number of so-called republican period porcelain plaques on offer from unknown auction sites are actually very new, as in the last 20 years or so.
I have concerns about the lack of shading within the paint. The way that the upper grass/land area does not taper off It just stops (common in modern/new plaques). The facial features appear very cute. A good sign that they are ultra modern. Finally the overall look of this plaque looks very stiff and rushed. It lacks master quality.
Once I can view the back I should be able to determine if this plaque is either pre or post 1950 simply by determining if it has been gas fired or wood fired oven.
Judging by your pictures posted I believe your plaque is relatively very modern (gas fired) for the reasons I have briefly explained and thus has only decorative value.
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Subject:Re: Macao porcelain plaque translation
Posted By: LEP Mon, Dec 23, 2019

Thank you. I'll pass on this lot, I'm fairly new to asian porcelain painting.. All those tips are appreciated, I need to keep in mind the fluidity of a painting, and this one is stiffed like you said, I'll keep on researching and learning.
If you, or someone, can post a side to side, oven
vs gas back plate views, or tell me what to look for would be helpful!

Many thanks again!


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