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Subject:Famille Verte - Famille Rose - Charger
Posted By: John Sun, Dec 16, 2018 IP:

Hello Everyone, I need some help on a beautiful Chinese charger I purchased from EBay. Can anybody help me I'm not sure if it's Famille Verte or Famille Rose, because of the green I think it's Verte? Can anybody check it out and let me know , it is a nice sized charger bit of wear to the lady in the middle but it has age to expected sometimes.
Thanks in advance anyone who can help!

Subject:Re: Famille Verte - Famille Rose - Charger
Posted By: John Tue, Dec 18, 2018

Here are the photos , did not work on original post-

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Subject:Re: Famille Verte - Famille Rose - Charger
Posted By: Bill H Wed, Dec 19, 2018

A Charger is a large serving dish for use with food at the dining table. Your item appears to be a deeper basin, an item of toilet ware for use with a similarly decorated companion water bottle for washing hands and face or other bathing needs.

One way I keep up with the various "Familles" is to remember first of all that they are foreign descriptions made up for use by Europeans in place of the several Chinese terms. "Famille Rose" is the "Pink Family" of colors; "Famille Verte" the "Green Family"; "Famille Jaune" the "Yellow"; and "Noire" the "Black".

"Famille Rose" depends on a colloidal gold pigment for its brilliance, while "Famille Verte" uses an iron-based pigment for its usually flatter orange tones. In simple terms, any palette using any amount of "Famille Rose" color is properly called "Famille Rose", unless of course you wish to memorize the Chinese terms for it. Meanwhile, "Famille Jaune" and "Famille Noire" are simply "Famille Verte" colors when painted on yellow or black grounds. "Famille Verte" itself was a Qing Kangxi-era refinement of a palette developed during the Ming Wanli period, then largely supplanted by the "Famille Rose" palette during the ensuing Yongzheng and Qianlong reigns; Kangxi revivals and imitations inevitably followed.

Under these definitions, I would call your basin "Famille Rose" from circa the third quarter of the 19th century, perhaps the Tongzhi reign (1862-74). It seems to have above average wear and a general dulling of colors, as if it might have been refired or overfired in the kiln. The bamboo leaf decoration on the outer sidewalls looks a bit like it may be ciphered into character forms as auspicious sayings, but it's difficult to say from the angle and limited views. I can't always decipher these things in any event.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Famille Verte - Famille Rose - Charger
Posted By: John Sat, Dec 22, 2018

Amazing information! Thank you So much For That Bill, It's Appreciated a lot to Learn From You. Thanks for taking the time! I wish you a Great Christmas & a Happy New Year!
Warm Regards
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