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Subject:Butterfly 19th C. Vase
Posted By: william Sat, Dec 30, 2017 IP: 66.130.74.157

It is mounted on a late 19th century kerosene lamp and later converted to electricity. Could the vase be older than the lamp? Thanks





Subject:Re: Butterfly 19th C. Vase
Posted By: TimG Mon, Jan 01, 2018

lovely!
Probably 19th, but you should take the lamp apart and post some clear photos of the foot.
The quality is certainly looks good enough to be Kangxi in my opinion, but I'm not sure this subject matter was ever used as early as the Kangxi.
Best,
Tim

Subject:Re: Butterfly 19th C. Vase
Posted By: bokaba Tue, Jan 02, 2018

I don't believe the butterfly motif appeared until the Qianlong Reign, and even then it was rare. It was used again in the Guangxu Reign, Republic, and late 20th Century.

It is hard to say without seeing the base, but the colors are wrong for Qianlong and look more late 19th Century in my opinion, but could also be more modern.

Bokaba

Subject:Re: Butterfly 19th C. Vase
Posted By: Corey Thu, Jan 04, 2018

A quick search with google images reveals an example of a Kangxi period vase decorated with butterflies from Sotheby's:

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/kangxi-porcelain-n09110/lot.34.html

And a 19/20th century example:

https://auctions.bidsquare.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/934/lot/322313/ahlers-ogletree-chinese-porcelain-vase-w-butterflies-kangxi-mark

Subject:Re: Butterfly 19th C. Vase
Posted By: Corey Tue, Jan 09, 2018

Also came across this famille verté/wucai Kangxi period vase, which is in the National Palace Museum. I find it interesting how the enamels resembles those of the vase at the bidsquare site. Makes me wonder if that one is actually a mark and period example rather than a 19/20th century copy. More detailed photos available here:

http://www.nlc.cn/newgtkj/hxyz/tc/201109/t20110921_51650.htm

It's definitely a possibility that Williams vase is also Kangxi period. I would be interesting for us to see the base and perhaps some close up pictures that shows the details of the butterflys, and also a better reproduction of the colors would be welcome.






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