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Subject:Help with Ko-sometsuke Plates markings
Posted By: Linda2 Wed, Nov 29, 2017 IP: 142.59.135.91

I have some plates that I believe are from the 17th century Tiangi/Chongzhen and most likely made for Japanese market (ko-sometsuke). About 5.5" across. Can anyone translate the marks? Any other comments would be appreciated.







Subject:Re: Help with Ko-sometsuke Plates markings
Posted By: JLim Thu, Nov 30, 2017



Dear Linda

I hate to be the bearer of bad news; but the second mark appears to be a very oddly inscribed four-character Kangxi mark.

Four-character Kangxi marks are almost unknown prior to the Kangxi Revival porcelains of the late 19th / early 20th centuries. When this is combined with the typical fat-faced figures of the era on the design of the plates, I think there is little doubt that these are Kangxi Revival porcelains and not 17th century Kosometsuke.

Kind regards
J.Lim

Subject:Re: Help with Ko-sometsuke Plates markings
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Nov 30, 2017

Those are late-Qing-Republic era dishes in the motif of the three Daoist Star Gods. Here's one of a pair I have in the same size as yours with the mark of Xuantong (1909-11), the last Qing Emperor. In keeping with the period trend, such dishes came with a variety of marks, or no mark at all, to suit various consumer tastes.

Best regards,

Bill H.





Subject:Re: Help with Ko-sometsuke Plates markings
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Nov 30, 2017

FYI, here are images of the other Xuantong dish I mentioned.

Bill H.





Subject:Re: Help with Ko-sometsuke Plates markings
Posted By: mikeoz Thu, Nov 30, 2017

1. precious object

2. KangXi year made (but not really made then)

Subject:Re: Help with Ko-sometsuke Plates markings
Posted By: LInda2 Fri, Dec 01, 2017

Thank you all.


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