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Subject:qing dynasty hexagonal plate
Posted By: tonny Fri, Jul 14, 2017 IP:

Qing dynasty B/w hexagonal plate, need comment

Subject:Re: qing dynasty hexagonal plate
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Jul 14, 2017

At the outset, I should mention that your dish is octagonal. It would appear to be 19th century Chinese export in the "Canton" blue & white pattern, which carries the old name for Guangzhou, Guangdong. I reviewed the Schiffer book on 'Chinese Export Porcelain Standard Patterns and Forms, 1780 to 1880". The most conspicuous use of an octagonal dish was in bases for butter dishes, both in Canton B&W and Rose Medallion patterns, some having round and others octagonal covers. Butter dishes also had pierced round liners for their inside bottoms. Some hexagonal forms were known as well in protective tiles for the tabletop and warming dishes in the Canton B&W pattern.

The Schiffer book left the size of the mentioned butter dishes a mystery, as did you regarding your dish. Maybe you'll be able to find a source more conscious of dimensions to resolve the question and let us know once and for all if size does or doesn't matter.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: qing dynasty hexagonal plate
Posted By: tonnh Fri, Jul 14, 2017

Thanks Bill.

Yes you're right Octagonal. Sorry for the mistaken. As long as I collect the chinese porcelen I just mention the period. Such as, song, yuan, ming qing. It's not as detail as yours opinion and expert. I learn ceramic firstly colecting the original trade ceramic that found in indonesia. I rather belive to the trade,minyao,or other cheap trade porcelen than imperial one.

Thanks for your expert comments. Hopfully to your next comment

Subject:Re: qing dynasty hexagonal plate
Posted By: plasticman Fri, Jul 14, 2017

The plate is probably a small dinner size, according to the size of the thumb in the photo. Octagonal shaped plates, probably based on European silver designs, were exported as early as the 1st quarter of the 18th century. My earliest armorial one dates from the c.1725 period. As far as the plate design and workmanship, Jean Mudge in her book "Chinese Export Porcelain in North America" rates a similar, but round, plate as "rough". This is her lowest rating of porcelain objects. At the mid 19th century Britain and Europe were no longer importing much Chinese porcelain so as to not compete with their domestic growth industries. America became the focus of much export ware and the emphasis was on cheap dinner sets. I am afraid it was not the pinnacle of Chinese porcelain production.

Subject:Re: qing dynasty hexagonal plate
Posted By: tonny Sun, Jul 16, 2017

Thanks for the detail comment Mr Plasticman. Now I know that The plate's for US export .

Subject:Re: qing dynasty hexagonal plate
Posted By: Bokaba Sat, Jul 15, 2017

Here is a hexagonal Canton platter from "Export Porcelain in North America" dated 1830-1840, though yours may be more post-Opium Wars (c. 1850s or later).


Subject:Re: qing dynasty hexagonal plate
Posted By: tonny Tue, Jul 18, 2017

Thanks Bokaba. Nice book. | Associations | Articles | Exhibitions | Galleries |