Subject:Re: Was this a song ru lotus cup sold for $68,900 by Joanies?
Posted By: Corey Thu, Jun 29, 2017
All right! Finally I got some feedback on one of my postings. I don't think it's the real deal either. But I've been wondering if it could be one of the numerous other ceramic wares that "imitate" ru ware of the song dynasty, for example jun ware, guan ware, "linru", or even longquan. An example of jun that can be mistaken for ru is at the met, where it is described as "ma jun" or "soft jun":
Koh Antiques also has an article on the subject where it is mentioned that the chinese also call it "ru jun".
And there is a delicious lotus cup depicted in one of the catalogues of Chien Lung Tang (Nov. - Dec. 2011), which I'd guess is either guan, linru or jun ware:
(Both guan, linru and jun ware sometimes appear in glazes that look like the glaze of Chien Lung Tang's lotus cup.)
But if it is so, then the cup sold by Joanies should not have sesame seed shaped spur marks, should it?
The cup itself apparently comes from the estate of Vermeer and griggs, a well established and renowned dealers partnership, beased in atlanta I think. They used to run the site teadus.com, which I have personally used for reference on several occasions. It' says in the description that the cup comes from the personal collection of Michael Vermeer. Joanies has been selected to sell off their collection via her platform, which is understandable, as she really has had some ver succesful an admirable results in the past years.
(End of post 1 of june 29 anno 2017)