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Subject:Chinese, Japanese, old, new?
Posted By: Miranda Sun, Jun 25, 2017 IP:

Hi, would appreciate any kind of help identifying origin of this "wase"?
Age? Old or 1900?
Chinese or Japanese?
And any other information that could be of interest
Kind regards

Subject:Re: Chinese, Japanese, old, new?
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Jun 26, 2017

As also happens to be noted in Chinese on the label, such crackle-glaze vases with apocryphal base-marks of the Ming Chenghua Reign generally are attributed to the Qing dynasty Guangxu period (1875-1908). See link for a forum thread concerning polychrome vases with the same mark. You'll also find some sellers and auctioneers who misidentify these ceramics as Japanese. So far as I'm aware, the Japanese don't copy them, but the Chinese apparently have issued modern repros of the same type.

Best regards,

Bill H.

URL Title :Crackle glaze vase

Subject:Re: Chinese, Japanese, old, new?
Posted By: Miranda Tue, Jun 27, 2017

Thank you Bill!
I appriciate your information and will read more in the Crackle glaze vase tread!
Best regards

Subject:Re: Chinese, Japanese, old, new?
Posted By: JLim Fri, Sep 08, 2017

Dear Miranda

I have a vase that is remarkably similar to this one, so similar they may have been made by the same people, although mine has a pair of dragons on it. If it is any guide, I remember buying it at auction in around 2012 for $110 Australian!

The style is sometimes called "incised brown ware" because of the faux Chenghua mark cut into a brown pottery seal on the base. The brown bits on the body of the vase simulate bronzework. The style started in the late 19th century and continued into the 20th.

I would date our vases to around 1900. Note the sort of impure, dirty look to the blue cobalt, and the coarse gritty footrim.

J Lim

Subject:Re: Chinese, Japanese, old, new?
Posted By: JLim Tue, Nov 07, 2017

Dear Miranda

If you're still interested, I spotted a vase almost identical to yours on page 119 of Anthony Allen's newest book. He dates it to second or third quarter of the 19th century (c. 1825-1875).

That is a lot older than I would have guessed, and it also makes my own vase potentially about the same age. My own vase is pictured below.

Kind regards
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