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Subject:Possible Republic Jar with Calligraphy Signed Xu Xiangxing 徐祥兴
Posted By: Bokaba Thu, Jun 01, 2017 IP: 2605:e000:af16:3b00:

Dear Members,

Does this jar appear to be an authentic Republic Period piece. I am getting mixed reactions. I think the form, artwork, and foot are good for late 19th/early 20th Century.

However, there is little fading to the calligraphy, which contains some simplified characters. I understand simplified characters alone are not proof of a post 1949 date as some have been used since the Han Dynasty in cursive script.

I am wondering if these jars were made as blanks with many being decorated later as I have seen some with extremely modern (Cultural Revolution themes) decoration.

It appears to be signed Xu Xiang Xing (徐祥兴) an early 20th Century artist mentioned on the Gotheborg site around 1920. It could also be in his style.

Can anyone shed some light on this piece? Bill H.? Is this clearly a Qianjing school piece or is a later date possible?

Thank you,

Bokaba







Subject:Re: Possible Republic Jar with Calligraphy Signed Xu Xiangxing 徐祥兴
Posted By: rat Fri, Jun 02, 2017

looks fine to me as republic. it's not qianjiang though

Subject:Re: Possible Republic Jar with Calligraphy Signed Xu Xiangxing 徐祥兴
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Jun 02, 2017

It's my impression that this painting style and palette appeared circa the late 1920's-early 1930's. Some of the artists may have survived World War II and the Civil war to resume production for a brief period in the late 40's-early 50's, but barring the presence of a cyclical date, which I don't see on this jar, there's probably no easy way to discern later from earlier production.

I can't read all of the cursive inscription, but the third line down from the right seems to say something about imitating someone or something's style. The fourth line uses the colloquial term "Zhushan" (珠山) for Jingdezhen. In any event, it's my subjective sense from watching recent late Qing and Republic Chinese porcelain sales that this particular style and period of melon jar by second echelon artists hasn't increased in price enough to warrant any wholesale copying.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Possible Republic Jar with Calligraphy Signed Xu Xiangxing 徐祥兴
Posted By: rat Fri, Jun 02, 2017

first two lines are a poem, third and fourth are (mostly):
仿六如x人笔法 Imitating the style of Liuru (Tang Yin, Ming painter)
画于珠山之刻次 (painted while visiting Zhushan) I still don't have a clear understand of what keci means. it seems to mean that the artist was sitting in or visiting an established workshop to paint.
fifth line has the artist's name and I can't see what else

Subject:Re: Possible Republic Jar with Calligraphy Signed Xu Xiangxing 徐祥兴
Posted By: bokaba Fri, Jun 02, 2017

Hi Bill,

Here is the rest of the inscription.




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