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Subject:help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: william Wed, May 13, 2015 IP: 178.1.238.41 Hi everyone, I have a pair of very small bowls or cups, they are very delicate and well painted. There also is a mark on the bottom. |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: Corey Sun, May 17, 2015 Mark is Chenghua, but they are probably later. Otherwise you would be rich ... |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: Robert Mon, May 18, 2015 Porcelain with this kind of enamel decoration is referred to as doucai (joined colors). It started in Ming Chenghua reign but was copied also in the 18th century, often with a Chenghua mark. The enamels on your bowls as well as the footrim look like those on 18th century porcelain. Being that so many excellent fakes are being made these day, I would recommend evaluation by an reputable dealer or auction house. |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: William Wed, May 20, 2015 Hello Robert, |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: Bill H Tue, May 19, 2015 Your cups have a form of the 'Chilong' or 'immature' dragon that I've seen in use on Japanese wares, including this pair of small sake-type cups in a five-color motif with apocryphal Chenghua markings, which also are similar to those on your doucai wares. In addition to the style of dragon, I became convinced that mine probably are Japanese because the biscuit has a granularity to it that I associate more with Japanese clay than Chinese. I must agree that your cups look a bit more Chinese in painting and potting, but thought I'd share these observations in case yours might reveal any of the same characteristics on closer inspection. |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: Walter Thu, May 21, 2015 Hello William, |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: William Sat, May 23, 2015 Hello Walter, |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: Walter Mon, May 25, 2015 Hi William, |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: Walter Mon, May 25, 2015 another Ming bowl |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: William Thu, May 21, 2015 Hello Bill, |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: Bill H Fri, May 22, 2015 Here's another set of images from a Japanese 4.5 inch bowl with similar decoration, though this example is more like the Chinese doucai palette. The impressed mark in the cartouche on the base appears to read down in seal script as the surname and place name 'Kitamine' (北峯), literally 'North Peak'. Have been unable as of yet to link the name to a specific kiln or area. I have three bowls with the mark, two in this palette and another in blue & white. All were acquired about five years ago from the estate of a gentleman who'd worked in Japan with the occupation forces. |
Subject:Re: help with chinese porcelain bowls
Posted By: william Thu, May 28, 2015 Thank you for the all the examples on different bowls. It will be interesting to find out exactly what the cups are. |
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