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can anyone tell me anything about this plate.I think the characters on the back of the plate say"made by shimamura.age,value or anything else?
Thank you.

The Japanese mark reads down as 'Shimamura Sei' - 'Made by Shimamura'. A quick Google search revealed a couple of queries to other forums about such marks, but no additional information. Your dish has a look of the late 19th early 20th century. Many similar Moriage dishes are found with 'Nippon Hand Painted' marks, which date from about 1890-1920.

Best regards,

Bill H.

thank you bill

Raised white motifs might be molded in with dish, not 'moriage' thick enamel/slip.

Flower style European / USA, late first quarter 20th century into 1930s, this made for export, possibly painted France, Austria, Germany. You not say size, possibly made for part of luncheon set.

Good luck,
Cal

Hi Cal,
The characters, even for a non-Chinese or Japanese speaker like myself, as Bill confirms, are clearly Japanese.
I find your guesswork, as on the earlier allegedly Mexican piece, and now this plate, extremely uninformed and misleading.
Regards
Tony

rather than criticize the guy's comments, maybe you could give me some info about the plate...age,, value etc. Thanx,


brucewkhn

Hi Bruce,
The general consensus is that the Japanese porcelain made after 1891 bore either Nippon, Made in Nippon or Japan marks in that order up to circa 1920 (and Made in Japan after that date). There are exceptions to this rule of thumb.

However, these marks applied only to pieces intended for export. Pieces for domestic use were frequently not marked, and your plate in my opinion in as example.

The rather dirty thickly applied enamels suggest to me a date of manufacture in Japan circa 1920 to 1930, and appear similar to those on some lower quality Satsuma wares on this period.

As to value, maybe $30 on a good day.

Sorry, if it is not what you wanted to hear.
Regards
Tony

thank you tony

Of course the plate was made in Japan. Does not mean that all decoration done there. Large quantities porcelain shipped to USA for what today called 'crafters' for painting. Were ladies' clubs dedicated to this using blanks from Japan. Items shipped in quantities in cartons need not have been individually marked place of origin.

Have also seen large quantities cheap porcelain decorated with just such floral designs made Austria and Germany 1920s+.

Anthony, you have no experience with what has been on USA vintage/antiques market last 40 years (including Mexico-made semblance imitation Chinese dishes), so suggest moderation in certainty.

Good luck,
Cal

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